Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.013 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'dependency': 0.07; 'pypy': 0.07; 'skip:/ 10': 0.07; 'subject:installation': 0.07; 'python': 0.10; 'wed,': 0.15; "'make": 0.16; '--version': 0.16; 'declaration': 0.16; 'finicky': 0.16; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'hurt.': 0.16; 'magnitude.': 0.16; 'message-id:@mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'personally,': 0.16; 'received:192.168.1.4': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'variable': 0.18; '>>>': 0.20; 'versions': 0.20; '2015': 0.20; '2.x': 0.22; '3.x': 0.22; 'gcc': 0.22; 'sep': 0.22; 'dec': 0.23; 'third-party': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; "doesn't": 0.26; 'installed': 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'earlier': 0.27; 'disk': 0.27; 'transition': 0.27; 'regular': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'probably': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'machine.': 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'ubuntu': 0.33; 'but': 0.36; 'development.': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'version': 0.38; 'end': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'space': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'future': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.61; '30,': 0.63; 'different': 0.63; 'beat': 0.66; 'bothered': 0.66; 'biggest': 0.67; 'upgrading': 0.72; 'friendly': 0.74; '1:00': 0.84; '2.5.3': 0.84; '2.7.': 0.84; '2.7.8': 0.84; '3.4': 0.84; 'figueiredo': 0.84; 'mario': 0.84; '2014,': 0.91; 'period.': 0.95 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=CvRCCSMD c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:117 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=7YfXLusrAAAA:8 a=siIvLd-_sSqAfbuu-KEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-AUTH: mrabarnett@:2500 Subject: Re: Linux Mint installation of Python 3.5 To: python-list@python.org References: <560B4AFA.2040305@gmx.com> <560B5048.50100@gmx.com> From: MRAB Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 18:05:05 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 41 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1443632717 news.xs4all.nl 23790 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51090 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:97249 On 2015-09-30 04:15, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Mario Figueiredo wrote: >>> Personally, I use the regular 'make install', but that's because I'm >>> on Debian - the system Python is 2.7. >> >> Unfortunately Ubuntu based distros are going through a 2.x to 3.x >> transition period. Both Pythons are installed and are system dependencies. >> >> And their finicky dependency on Python really make these distros not >> very friendly for Python development. If I do end up successfully >> upgrading from 3.4 to 3.5, I will most likely forfeit my ability to >> upgrade the Mint version in the future without a full system >> installation. So the solution is to just maintain 3 different versions >> of python my machine. Ridiculous. > > Three different Python versions? Ehh, no big deal. > > rosuav@sikorsky:~$ python2 --version > Python 2.7.9 > rosuav@sikorsky:~$ python3.4 --version > Python 3.4.2 > rosuav@sikorsky:~$ python3.5 --version > Python 3.5.0b1+ > rosuav@sikorsky:~$ python3.6 --version > Python 3.6.0a0 > rosuav@sikorsky:~$ pypy --version > Python 2.7.8 (2.4.0+dfsg-3, Dec 20 2014, 13:30:46) > [PyPy 2.4.0 with GCC 4.9.2] > rosuav@sikorsky:~$ jython --version > "my" variable $jythonHome masks earlier declaration in same scope at > /usr/bin/jython line 15. > Jython 2.5.3 > > And Steven D'Aprano probably can beat that by an order of magnitude. > > Keep your multiple interpreters around; it doesn't hurt. Unless you're > seriously bothered by disk space issues, the biggest cost is keeping > track of which one you've installed some third-party package into. > Well, I have 16 of them!