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On 29/07/2012 15:15, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 29/07/2012 14:36, Robert Marshall wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012, python.list@tim.thechases.com wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/29/12 05:28, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>>> On 29/07/2012 06:08, Ben Finney wrote:
>>>>> Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> writes:
>>>>> Learn one of Emacs or Vim well, and you won't need to worry
>>>>> about text editors again.
>>>>
>>>> Point taken, snag being I've never used any nix box in anger.
>>>> This thread reminds of the good 'ole days when I were a lad using
>>>> TPU on VMS. Have we got any VMS aficionados here?
>>>
>>> Though I'm personally far more vitriolic about VMS vs $OS (had a few
>>> souring experiences with VMS in college) than I am regarding Vim vs.
>>> Emacs, you can get Vim for at least OpenVMS:
>>>
>>> http://www.vim.org/download.php#others
>>>
>>> I presume sources compile fairly well on other flavors of VMS if
>>> needed, and I'd expect Emacs can do likewise[1]
>>>
>>
>> I used to use tpu (used to have piles of tpu macros..) and I first got used
>> to emacs by using its tpu mode - I see that still exists so you can use
>> emacs and pretend it is really tpu!
>>
>> Robert
>>
>
> Well knock me down with a feather, clevor Trevor[1], might have to give
> that a go, thanks.
>
> [1] Ian Dury and the Blockheads album New Boots and Panties, song called
> Clevor Trevor for those of you who clearly lack a suitable education :)
>
There appears to be some confusion about the spelling, but it might be
"Clevor Trever".