Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Travis Griggs Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Learning Python (or Haskell) makes you a worse programmer Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 09:30:59 -0700 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <56f9cffb$0$1614$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <56FA00EC.80909@gmail.com> <56FA537F.9090506@mail.de> <56FB0FF6.3000305@harvee.org> <56FBA577.6070607@mail.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de S64SrrboElpIxXakHo1G7AcUpJQBMDxpuRqr4Iq43TlQ== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.149 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.70; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'gregory': 0.16; 'pages:': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:Learning': 0.16; 'subject:programmer': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'second': 0.24; 'tim': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'sort': 0.25; 'module': 0.25; 'this.': 0.28; 'follows': 0.29; 'too.': 0.30; 'subject:) ': 0.32; 'maybe': 0.33; 'source': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'curious': 0.33; 'surprised': 0.33; 'open': 0.33; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'heard': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'difference': 0.38; 'received:209': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'ever': 0.60; 'header :Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'url:t': 0.62; '30,': 0.63; 'hear': 0.64; 'mar': 0.65; 'american': 0.69; '2:36': 0.84; 'i\xe2\x80\x99ll': 0.84; 'to:name:python': 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.85; 'zealand': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=JjgRAn2ImjmzBpk1mg87Xbiu/ID2SyJ7k8eH63QU3AI=; b=TOztrWiD9pmRf+fNH6sCfsYhsVe70M+4B4fy6uLte+OgmtC2USkztL8rPwG19rSSSt CbDYxSV0nhXwGy6DeigXTk6yNc5m4UXjMWlQ8XzkYaUSoVHbYhBpGnFe8L8uanLSr5ez ZemlFWajs5R7jikv2/kC9vnPVGJDKUhfXpEnUZ5jTs7XNuK9gxXRfi8Im+ImEBtDOj3o 5JCLNQivvScu5he8an2SDchefGDhCcdDaE1jyYaXRpf10HA78novS2J7+LNCMnYv8ob6 lEKKqksuIvcmv2ywrv/zjtzWkvXYw7K34dip+r8Lth9krK/jdwr32hx/r4LX45u0pX+9 al2g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=JjgRAn2ImjmzBpk1mg87Xbiu/ID2SyJ7k8eH63QU3AI=; b=SqvpvaBY623lNWEyFDqOy+GTsBldebydgOOLfsGj1oBTTvEIx1pDzPUZFBpXdn85KA jIthHdXEE1aX1a1EauEnvvjjcbhfiOnAsfLS7IKiXxni5VLZuHHecUZ9BX+Jr6+ejijd ImoHXMclaMdCtvn5PH3nTkTGLW2jjXiTyMIc2iNPgZUAIqJLdZi/0jdD+SOPkvoVOd6c nfe8Po+stcbrbHD3O6txJQNy4PKAHx2VKXB61rEHb1RVJ8j2I8vs9KUvl++jAHKjXv7R dGWanCCSYvppNVZbl591O2PWOyxrJ6Ngi6nFfvOEOIpJvstyfgiJGNb9bptYsIzeRdbI P0Qg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJI7PVH0MUx8Rd4NUt5qgLHdmg+Vp4v9JhdxFYyPqkKGCBMRQ0M2wQyix7aNbI2yaA== X-Received: by 10.98.16.198 with SMTP id 67mr23336125pfq.21.1459441861106; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 09:31:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:106172 > On Mar 30, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Gregory Ewing = wrote: >=20 > Tim Golden wrote: >=20 >> (I don't know how other English-speaking groups say the word, but in >> England the first syllable is stressed and the second is the >> conventional short "uh" sound). >=20 > I can attest that New Zealand follows the UK on this. I was > surprised when I first heard an American pronounce it too. >=20 > The curious can hear the difference on these pages: >=20 > British: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/python > American: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/python?s=3Dt That does it. If I ever make some sort of open source module for = pythun/pythawn I=E2=80=99ll be sure to call it either tuhmayto/tomawto. = Or maybe I=E2=80=99ll call it puhtayto/potawto.