Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'needed,': 0.05; 'pretend': 0.07; 'here?': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'thread': 0.11; 'emacs,': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'flavors': 0.16; 'knock': 0.16; 'message- id:@dough.gmane.org': 0.16; 'presume': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:Text': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'exists': 0.17; 'tim': 0.18; '>>>': 0.18; 'thanks.': 0.21; 'fairly': 0.21; "i'd": 0.22; "i've": 0.23; 'least': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; '[1]': 0.27; 'experiences': 0.27; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.28; '(used': 0.29; '>>>>': 0.29; 'chase': 0.29; 'editors': 0.29; 'writes:': 0.29; 'url:download': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'mode': 0.30; 'expect': 0.31; 'point': 0.31; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.32; 'sources': 0.32; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; 'text': 0.34; 'ben': 0.35; 'robert': 0.35; "won't": 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'really': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'being': 0.37; 'far': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mark': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'called': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'days': 0.60; 'personally': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'jul': 0.65; 'lack': 0.71; 'boots': 0.84; 'reminds': 0.84; 'song': 0.84; 'trevor': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: OT: Text editors Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:15:42 +0100 References: <87pq7fqhlh.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <87txwqd6zh.fsf@capuchin.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-146-5-185.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 In-Reply-To: <87txwqd6zh.fsf@capuchin.co.uk> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120729-0, 29/07/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 41 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1343571358 news.xs4all.nl 6951 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57735 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:26187 On 29/07/2012 14:36, Robert Marshall wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jul 2012, python.list@tim.thechases.com wrote: > >> On 07/29/12 05:28, Mark Lawrence wrote: >>> On 29/07/2012 06:08, Ben Finney wrote: >>>> Tim Chase writes: >>>> Learn one of Emacs or Vim well, and you won't need to worry >>>> about text editors again. >>> >>> Point taken, snag being I've never used any nix box in anger. >>> This thread reminds of the good 'ole days when I were a lad using >>> TPU on VMS. Have we got any VMS aficionados here? >> >> Though I'm personally far more vitriolic about VMS vs $OS (had a few >> souring experiences with VMS in college) than I am regarding Vim vs. >> Emacs, you can get Vim for at least OpenVMS: >> >> http://www.vim.org/download.php#others >> >> I presume sources compile fairly well on other flavors of VMS if >> needed, and I'd expect Emacs can do likewise[1] >> > > I used to use tpu (used to have piles of tpu macros..) and I first got used > to emacs by using its tpu mode - I see that still exists so you can use > emacs and pretend it is really tpu! > > Robert > Well knock me down with a feather, clevor Trevor[1], might have to give that a go, thanks. [1] Ian Dury and the Blockheads album New Boots and Panties, song called Clevor Trevor for those of you who clearly lack a suitable education :) -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.