Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!newsfeed.eweka.nl!eweka.nl!feeder3.eweka.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'position,': 0.04; 'preference': 0.05; 'advocate': 0.07; 'nicely': 0.07; 'here?': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'thread': 0.11; 'library': 0.15; 'sat,': 0.15; 'both.': 0.16; 'emacs,': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'fits': 0.16; 'message-id:@dough.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:Text': 0.16; "tim's": 0.16; 'tying': 0.16; 'uses,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'tim': 0.18; '>>>': 0.18; 'platforms': 0.18; 'windows': 0.19; 'os,': 0.22; 'programming': 0.23; 'task': 0.23; "i've": 0.23; 'least': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'right.': 0.27; 'touch.': 0.27; 'regular': 0.27; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'fine': 0.28; 'chase': 0.29; 'editors': 0.29; 'things,': 0.29; 'writes:': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'knows': 0.30; 'point': 0.31; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.32; 'loved': 0.33; 'anyone': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; "can't": 0.34; 'text': 0.34; 'ben': 0.35; 'involving': 0.35; 'massive': 0.35; 'text.': 0.35; 'community': 0.35; 'especially': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; "won't": 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'programmers': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'editor': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mark': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'help': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'days': 0.60; 'different': 0.63; 'frequently': 0.65; 'jul': 0.65; 'investment': 0.67; 'reminds': 0.84; 'ubiquity': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: OT: Text editors Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:28:17 +0100 References: <87pq7fqhlh.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-146-5-185.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 In-Reply-To: <87pq7fqhlh.fsf@benfinney.id.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120729-0, 29/07/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 41 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1343557723 news.xs4all.nl 6910 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38380 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:26177 On 29/07/2012 06:08, Ben Finney wrote: > Tim Chase writes: > >> On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >>> I highly recommend the use of notepad++. If anyone knows of a >>> better text editor for Windows please let me know :) > > I highly recommend not tying your editor skills to a single OS, > especially one as ornery for programmers as Windows. > >> I'll advocate for Vim which is crazy-powerful and works nicely on >> just about any platform I touch. >> >> Others will advocate for Emacs, which I can't say fits the way my >> brain works but it's also powerful and loved by many. > > Right. I'm in Tim's position, but reversed: my preference is for Emacs > but Vim is a fine choice also. They are mature, well-supported with > regular updates and a massive library of plug-ins for different uses, > have a huge community to help you, and work on all major programming > OSen. > >> The ubiquity of these two platforms makes a worthwhile investment of >> time spent in learning at least one if not both. > > I use both frequently in my work for different things, and they are good > for pretty much any task involving manipulation of text. > > Learn one of Emacs or Vim well, and you won't need to worry about text > editors again. > Point taken, snag being I've never used any nix box in anger. This thread reminds of the good 'ole days when I were a lad using TPU on VMS. Have we got any VMS aficionados here? -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.