Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!npeer-ng0.de.kpn-eurorings.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.122 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.78; '*S*': 0.02; '16,': 0.03; 'english,': 0.09; 'language,': 0.12; 'language.': 0.14; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'intended.': 0.16; 'slight': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'second': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'words': 0.29; 'errors': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'apparently': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'whom': 0.33; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'tell': 0.60; 'first': 0.61; 'such': 0.63; 'talking': 0.65; 'between': 0.67; 'caused': 0.69; '2:02': 0.84; 'offended': 0.84; 'careful': 0.91; 'edwards': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kmXWpKilWNVefarcVjULHB5CJRR4vCpZy+WuL7XVJ80=; b=cD+JN1T1FB1R+oIc6yhvgoARdI4GkokTH7dhMlKJhp1UZmuA5NJ/iPzWd+RbHfdihB aVVAn8qt/5DFhdsHtPKg8BrDns6HMbN8oKv9Hscj72epqwzANi1QpEknIz/Vt02tyKyv mnpREh/t+RW8rNEtNZBj4tPl5Higi1UXV+1ygjrK0/V40PehKJ/7gb8u8xyVMQdE2cIc 6Wn8DKPevHCIHs53E3pco9IpzQZRe1U9rq1GXONkActjPo4oryjsiSa/VpXLEwmfm6r8 QdTaiRoLxf1C7cTsqaHl5maPK3XJjRH458bX7rhL7Eqv1hjhuLIiPJxJw2JjihiVaId1 aVPQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.110.196 with SMTP id ic4mr7210247pbb.84.1384528336957; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 07:12:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5285c2c6$0$29975$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87r4ai6s1l.fsf@rudin.co.uk> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 02:12:16 +1100 Subject: Re: Automation From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1384528346 news.xs4all.nl 15917 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41561 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:59535 On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > And yes, people can _easily_ tell the difference between errors caused > by being lazy/sloppy and errors caused by writing in a second > language. Yes, and even among people for whom English is the first language, idioms can cause offense. On another list I'm on (Savoynet), one person got somewhat offended at someone apparently calling him completely ignorant, when actually no such slight was intended. Welcome to English, where we all use the same words (mostly) but you really need to be careful talking about knocking someone up... ChrisA