Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.182 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.64; '*S*': 0.01; 'differently': 0.07; 'visited': 0.09; 'wrong,': 0.09; 'mathematics': 0.15; 'enlighten': 0.16; 'subject:random': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'from:addr:chris': 0.22; 'suppose': 0.22; 'symbolic': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'help.': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'possibility': 0.27; 'found.': 0.27; 'received:dreamhost.com': 0.29; 'received:g.dreamhost.com': 0.29; "i'd": 0.31; 'received:10.0.0': 0.32; 'probably': 0.32; 'class': 0.33; 'traditional': 0.33; 'weeks.': 0.33; 'received:10.0': 0.34; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; "didn't": 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'whom': 0.37; 'doing': 0.38; 'end': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'some': 0.40; 'him': 0.60; 'real': 0.61; 'school': 0.62; 'taking': 0.62; 'world': 0.64; 'goal': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'college': 0.67; 'us,': 0.73; '7:30am': 0.84; 'fourth': 0.84; 'subject:Testing': 0.84; 'textbook': 0.84; "they'd": 0.84; 'calculus': 0.91; 'luck': 0.95 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cdreimer.com; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=cdreimer.com; bh=j1Hx wyDWNBSCGfe+OFLFET0gU9A=; b=Q/owMzcxLT3PmSgbmx7rzKbWYrOyPOnl7ML5 U1QzsaQBV8BWPY+Q1Nhbh6RFvPHqyEaOZM+rwHMW1Xh7nGJGVVwNbuh810zl7j/W hAebeRJReze8MWG+nvh2RlIse/UcKrd9gwHsZxyXKzbqrWuuaimRsD7dzYXVS0g3 I+lukbk= Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:36:31 -0700 From: "C.D. Reimer" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Testing random References: <87oaksowwg.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> <1451048.pW9z17ilMA@PointedEars.de> <3158703.Lr4HFMbMOd@PointedEars.de> <1656356.OjxBvjpJ5d@PointedEars.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1433698601 news.xs4all.nl 2958 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48950 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:92279 On 6/7/2015 10:20 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > A fourth > possibility is that mathematics works differently for him and for us, > which I suppose is possible; when I visited sci.math a while ago, I > found some people for whom everything I'd learned in grade school was > clearly wrong, and they were doing their best to enlighten the world > about the new truths of mathematics that they'd found. I had the unfortunate luck of taking "Harvard Calculus" in college (circa 1995). The textbook was nothing but word problems from end to end. The goal was to get the students away from symbolic thinking of traditional calculus into thinking about real world problems that uses calculus. (Never mind that the majority of students don't use calculus after they get out school.) I bailed out after two weeks. Taking the class at 7:30AM probably didn't help. Chris R.