Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.032 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'anyway.': 0.05; 'root': 0.05; 'float': 0.07; 'integers': 0.09; 'subject:number': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'def': 0.12; '1.0)': 0.16; 'all?': 0.16; 'bit.': 0.16; 'cares': 0.16; 'integer,': 0.16; 'limit,': 0.16; 'limit.': 0.16; 'subject:skip:m 10': 0.16; 'all.': 0.16; 'so.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '(not': 0.18; 'slightly': 0.19; 'saying': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'integer': 0.24; 'decide': 0.24; 'paul': 0.24; 'somewhere': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'am,': 0.29; 'thus': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'bigger': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; 'int,': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'figure': 0.32; 'subject:all': 0.32; "we're": 0.32; 'maybe': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'beyond': 0.35; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'doing': 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'represent': 0.38; 'handle': 0.38; 'whatever': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'dave': 0.60; 'numbers': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; 'between': 0.67; 'night,': 0.68; 'received:74.208': 0.68; 'hour': 0.70; 'limit': 0.70; 'obvious': 0.74; 'square': 0.74; 'upper': 0.74; 'bignums': 0.84; 'missing.': 0.84; 'subject:find': 0.84; 'angel': 0.91; 'heat': 0.91 Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 01:43:07 -0400 From: Dave Angel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: find all multiplicands and multipliers for a number References: <890bd388-f50a-4dec-9ef5-27715427472a@googlegroups.com> <55288135$0$12997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87egnrb3il.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <87619387c0.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <90a8e07c-adb3-499f-8971-4ea49f6aea4b@googlegroups.com> <87lhhx7r44.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87zj6czt84.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <87vbh0zow3.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <87r3rozjjp.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> In-Reply-To: <87r3rozjjp.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:ICAplTg8SHwZupz5dtW3VzSaYuV3AKXACqpnrDqzgSighehN3iK na4QUOwxcThj//igrfnARUDFvHzEH2D7EXNFR4iVo27N+3RfQT8RqDOQ5EnkbAG2kVAzQBr Zb2NnaR0b48dI5c1WEh3ZozCfKMJ6khd6pDdAFK9EYvUYEJ7LX7OR3QH6vqGzIgiIg2hsOt C2PcLgwYwbjkX2WGrEgDQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 49 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1428903800 news.xs4all.nl 2851 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43997 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:88911 On 04/13/2015 01:25 AM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Dave Angel writes: >> But doesn't math.pow return a float?... >> Or were you saying bignums bigger than a float can represent at all? Like: >>>>> x = 2**11111 -1 ... >>>>> math.log2(x) >> 11111.0 > > Yes, exactly that. Well that value x has some 3300 digits, and I seem to recall that float only can handle 10**320 or so. But if the point of all this is to decide when to stop dividing, I think our numbers here are somewhere beyond the heat death of the universe. Thus (not completely tested): > > def isqrt(x): > def log2(x): return math.log(x,2) # python 2 compatibility > if x < 1e9: Now 10**9 is way below either limit of floating point. So i still don't know which way you were figuring it. Just off the top of my head, I think 10**18 is approx when integers don't get exact representation, and 10**320 is where you can't represent numbers as floats at all. > return int(math.ceil(math.sqrt(x))) > a,b = divmod(log2(x), 1.0) > c = int(a/2) - 10 > d = (b/2 + a/2 - c + 0.001) > # now c+d = log2(x)+0.001, c is an integer, and > # d is a float between 10 and 11 > s = 2**c * int(math.ceil(2**d)) > return s > > should return slightly above the integer square root of x. This is just > off the top of my head and maybe it can be tweaked a bit. Or maybe it's > stupid and there's an obvious better way to do it that I'm missing. > If you're willing to use the 10**320 or whatever it is for the limit, I don't see what's wrong with just doing floating point sqrt. Who cares if it can be an exact int, since we're just using it to get an upper limit. And I can't figure out your code at this hour of night, but it's much more complicated than Newton's method would be anyway. -- DaveA