Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.032 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'python': 0.09; 'bug': 0.10; 'bug,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'patch,': 0.16; 'perceived': 0.16; 'posting,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'resolved': 0.17; 'thu,': 0.17; 'feb': 0.19; 'work.': 0.23; 'mention': 0.23; 'project,': 0.24; 'least': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'accepted.': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'actual': 0.28; 'post': 0.28; 'maybe': 0.29; '(including': 0.30; 'actively': 0.30; 'gets': 0.32; 'you?': 0.32; 'johnson': 0.32; 'hopefully': 0.33; 'problem': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'list': 0.35; 'path': 0.35; 'open': 0.35; 'attend': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'list.': 0.35; 'full- time': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'problems': 0.36; 'being': 0.37; 'why': 0.37; 'busy': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'your': 0.60; 'worth': 0.63; 'manner.': 0.66; '2013': 0.84; 'tangible': 0.84; 'voiced': 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.88; 'rick': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HqaHsaELTq0gQcjGDDf7GoJEtYWu1C+7iMrEecDmdSI=; b=qCdOOgxZJ2wg9OvFCLLeIGRNeo5STgoY5cUINpptEdQWAO9gZhAk80EBKVKYRXOu9z 4weps82f0pqaMNHM+siyxcSyXBrm3HUC5X6YAy46eVka3z14w69yUJAcrJN6TWrFOhxx IVul03cG3rvbGO17USXepC17qJ57s48CxkKQ+YI9f1ElaPOQhnMOWlx4WvZyRNZ8L6kp MDUwqEzix+KB/5OOHWM+OoumYUjDhocJUl3yfWKzExKEXRXQjfBMev4KWrOHkBg5D3LH 4dzwtWHSbwPmxpHnlhejBKROZUs5JBrtE+rsqu8r8Hr8Tn2uQcCDoJpswMMOXVpQ6FYu mVcg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.88.197 with SMTP id bi5mr1596673vdb.58.1362019448269; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:44:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <287852cd-09ee-4768-9591-c1f31fe0489b@googlegroups.com> References: <512cb0a0$0$30001$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <57fd0b09-b30d-4e62-845a-aac198113a40@googlegroups.com> <54967758-e84c-4b9c-a09c-10fbdbec230f@googlegroups.com> <63b306c9-db6f-4c4c-b3c6-4c602ba31201@kt16g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> <287852cd-09ee-4768-9591-c1f31fe0489b@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:44:08 +1100 Subject: Re: Do you feel bad because of the Python docs? From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1362019456 news.xs4all.nl 6856 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44582 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:40099 On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > This is why i will AGAIN mention my PyWarts list (Hypothetical at this po= int). We need an official place for the many problems of Python to be discu= ssed in a fair and open manner. A place that will be open to noobs and freq= uented by pythonisitas (including the BDFL himself!) > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Path of a Python Issue > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > 1. All perceived problems with python get voiced on the PyWarts list > 2. After considerable discussion, and if we can widdle the problem down t= o a tangible bug, then a bug gets opened on the tracker. > 3. Hopefully the bug will be resolved and closed ASAP. Go start the list. When you get something that's worth posting, go post it on the tracker. And if you post something with an actual patch, then maybe it'll be accepted. Why are you demanding that busy people attend to you? You are effectively demanding that Guido, who has a full-time job as well as being head of a large project, should - without compensation - read and actively respond to every one of your whiny posts. That is simply not going to happen unless he *wants to*. It's up to you to make it worth his while, or at least interesting. That's how things work. ChrisA