Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '2.7': 0.04; 'subject:IDLE': 0.04; 'url:bugs': 0.05; 'received:verizon.net': 0.07; 'terry': 0.07; 'turtle': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'tkinter': 0.09; 'tracker': 0.09; 'up-to-date': 0.12; '(among': 0.16; '11/10/2011': 0.16; 'name).': 0.16; 'okay,': 0.16; 'osx': 0.16; 'ram.': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'tcl/tk': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'jan': 0.19; 'subject:not': 0.21; 'interface': 0.23; '64-bit': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.23; 'tried': 0.28; 'idle': 0.28; 'do.': 0.30; 'module': 0.30; 'ran': 0.30; 'ago': 0.30; 'installed': 0.30; 'pm,': 0.31; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.32; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.33; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.33; 'install': 0.34; 'latter': 0.34; 'running': 0.35; 'url:python': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.36; 'issue': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'several': 0.38; 'perhaps': 0.38; 'url:org': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'might': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'subject:will': 0.64; 'cameron': 0.73; '(open': 0.84; '2.4ghz': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: No matter what I do, IDLE will not work... Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 18:45:06 -0500 References: <3c2688bd-4f87-4eb1-9b40-3cb536a2d8df@e3g2000vbs.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-74-109-121-73.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: <3c2688bd-4f87-4eb1-9b40-3cb536a2d8df@e3g2000vbs.googlegroups.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1320968724 news.xs4all.nl 6948 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50308 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:15575 On 11/10/2011 5:40 PM, CAMERON ALLEY wrote: > Okay, so the problem. I tried to install Python 2.7 about two months > ago on both my laptop and iMac. Both are running up-to-date Mac OS X > 10.6, with 64-bit processors and around 2.4GHz speed and 2G of RAM. My > laptop installed python 2.7 and ran it perfectly, first time. My > desktop... not so much. You issue has nothing to do with IDLE and perhaps all to do with the buggy tcl/tk that comes with OSX 10.6. The Python module tkinter is the tk interface for Python (hence the name). The turtle module and IDLE both use tkinter. Searching all tracker issues (open and closed) for 'max tcl' turns up (among several others) http://bugs.python.org/issue10907 http://bugs.python.org/issue10969 http://bugs.python.org/issue12269 The latter 2, especially, might tell you what to do. -- Terry Jan Reedy