Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.039 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'python': 0.09; 'python:': 0.09; 'antoine': 0.16; 'ignores': 0.16; "module's": 0.16; 'pitrou': 0.16; 'received:74.55.86': 0.16; 'received:74.55.86.74': 0.16; 'received:smtp.webfaction.com': 0.16; 'received:webfaction.com': 0.16; 'rough': 0.16; 'stdlib.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'idea': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'authors': 0.27; 'diversity': 0.29; 'omitted': 0.29; 'writes:': 0.29; 'covered': 0.29; 'topics': 0.30; 'stuff': 0.30; 'generally': 0.32; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.33; 'tutorial': 0.33; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'be.': 0.36; 'does': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mean': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'page': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'url:12': 0.40; 'end': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'claim': 0.60; 'land': 0.62; 'different': 0.63; 'readers': 0.65; 'useful.': 0.65; 'targeted': 0.66; '95%': 0.84; 'antoine.': 0.84; 'url:items': 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.88 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:43:46 -0500 From: Mitya Sirenef User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Do you feel bad because of the Python docs? References: <512cb0a0$0$30001$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <512D05F3.5070901@lightbird.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1362005032 news.xs4all.nl 6965 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50039 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:40076 On 02/27/2013 08:22 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Mitya Sirenef lightbird.net> writes: >> I think the issue with python documentation is that it ignores the 95/5 >> rule: 95% of people who land on a module's page are only looking for 5% >> of its information. > > The 95/5 rule is generally a fallacy which ignores that the 5% which the > readers are expecting to learn about is not the same 5% from reader to reader. > (*) > > Which means that in the end you would really want a diversity of HOWTOs > targeted at different usages of the stdlib. But it is a lot of work to > write *and* maintain. > > (*) cf. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/12/09.html > > Regards > > Antoine. > > It would be absurd on my part to claim that they're precisely the same 5%. But then again, they don't have to be. Consider that some topics are covered in the official tutorial while others are omitted -- the authors of the tutorial were following the same rough 95/5 concept and the idea that some readers will find stuff they don't need in the tutorial while at the same time not finding some of what they DO need -- did not stop them from writing the tutorial, nor does it mean the tutorial is not useful. -m -- Lark's Tongue Guide to Python: http://lightbird.net/larks/