Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.028 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'list?': 0.07; 'degrades': 0.09; 'wrong,': 0.09; 'ignore': 0.14; "(it's": 0.16; 'hits.': 0.16; 'how,': 0.16; 'multiplied': 0.16; 'subject:random': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'element': 0.18; '>>>': 0.20; 'suppose': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; '2015': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'chris': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; "skip:' 10": 0.30; 'too.': 0.30; 'option': 0.31; "he's": 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.35; 'false': 0.35; 'being': 0.36; 'statement': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'rather': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'some': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'thomas': 0.63; '2:36': 0.84; 'rue': 0.84; 'speculation': 0.84; 'subject:Testing': 0.84; 'to:name:python': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=S7k/+vyb/MTcySEyMl62aYRCQWtd7Uzz6MAsBJ8bVZY=; b=IF9h2PJ2LduE4/acWxU+/7f2UA7KLv3MGTNirdijcqhbhDNm5SbisklmO5Su1RXqiW BZsbIGBxDboppO15cR4+9cZ7fDkBWt7HjeaAKVpG1VpF+/f0qz4pioPSyYtIacYFBQ7M /ae5rG/qjPRDtGT/+GhmfnFjmoLFXnLv2c8f/yllxoe4eDJ8f2zER8xR7I0s//nQAljx KsO7DH78ffxfi4o4XGTyXY5VwFRnr3eysBlsVVeey8v1ewx0kHWT/wE3oc0O9NBtBfgY BR0v+5+qH3yHs5rfE9nLpRLdGgQV5n+vC/CFPnajQVQwDn8Ez8TT70zMsHrAtlPRvwrF o/og== X-Received: by 10.170.167.2 with SMTP id j2mr8338373ykd.113.1433696864277; Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:07:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <87oaksowwg.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> <1451048.pW9z17ilMA@PointedEars.de> <3158703.Lr4HFMbMOd@PointedEars.de> <1656356.OjxBvjpJ5d@PointedEars.de> From: Ian Kelly Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 11:07:03 -0600 Subject: Re: Testing random To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1433697238 news.xs4all.nl 2937 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35203 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:92274 On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 2:36 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn > wrote: >>> The greater the multiplier, the lower the chance that any element will >>> have no hits. >> >> Wrong. >> >>> [ex falso quodlibet] > > Huh. Do you want to explain how, mathematically, I am wrong, or do you > want to join the RUE in my ignore list? My best speculation is that he's either objecting to the generality of your statement (it's false if the probability of some element occurring is zero or eventually degrades to zero), or misreading the word "multiplier" to the conclusion that the value of each element is being multiplied rather than the number of trials. Or trolling; I suppose that's always an option too.