Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'none,': 0.05; 'interpreted': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'function:': 0.09; 'indication': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:into': 0.09; 'subject:method': 0.09; 'utf8': 0.09; 'def': 0.10; 'subject:python': 0.11; 'extension': 0.13; "'from": 0.16; 'a(object):': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:dip.t-dialin.net': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:t-dialin.net': 0.16; 'subject:class': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'bytes': 0.17; 'instance': 0.17; 'refers': 0.17; 'unicode': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'math': 0.20; 'equivalent': 0.20; 'trying': 0.21; 'import': 0.21; 'subject:problem': 0.22; 'example': 0.23; 'class.': 0.23; 'pass': 0.25; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'implemented': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'actual': 0.28; 'run': 0.28; '0.5': 0.29; 'coded': 0.29; 'measure': 0.29; 'overhead': 0.29; 'wrap': 0.29; 'class': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'function': 0.30; 'expect': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; '(and': 0.32; '(2)': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; '(1)': 0.34; 'similar': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'wanted': 0.36; 'compare': 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'turn': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'why': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'takes': 0.39; 'called': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'between': 0.63; 'here': 0.65; 'therefore': 0.65; 'results': 0.65; 'analysis': 0.70; 'otten': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> Subject: Re: python 3 problem: how to convert an extension method into a class Method Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:14 +0100 Organization: None References: <512CEF0C.3020906@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <512DE1AB.7000100@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5084be1f.dip.t-dialin.net User-Agent: KNode/4.7.3 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 69 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1361963645 news.xs4all.nl 6900 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53297 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:40052 Robin Becker wrote: > On 26/02/2013 18:38, Peter Otten wrote: >> Robin Becker wrote: > ...........3: >> >> $ python -m timeit -s 'from new import instancemethod >>> from math import sqrt >>> class A(int): pass >>> A.m = instancemethod(sqrt, None, A) >>> a = A(42) >>> ' 'a.m()' >> 1000000 loops, best of 3: 0.5 usec per loop >> $ python -m timeit -s 'from math import sqrt >>> class A(int): >>> def m(self): >>> return sqrt(self) >>> a = A(42) >>> ' 'a.m()' >> 1000000 loops, best of 3: 0.473 usec per loop >> >> > this analysis might be relevant if I wanted to use sqrt. However, in my > case the method takes > > > > py C > utf8 bytes 50 20 usec > unicode 39 15 > > here py refers to a native python method and C to the extension method > after adding to the class. Both are called via an instance of the class. I think you misunderstood. You compare the time it takes to run the function coded in C and its Python equivalent -- that difference is indeed significant. But what I was trying to measure was the difference between two ways to wrap the C function: Given a function cfunc implemented in C and the two ways of turning it into a method (1) class A(object): pass def method(self, ...): return cfunc(self, ...) A.method = method (2) class A(object): pass A.method = new.instancemethod(cfunc, None, A) I interpreted my timeit results as an indication that both ways have roughly the same overhead (method (1) being 0.027 usec faster). I don't have your code available, that's why I picked math.sqrt as an example for cfunc. I expect that you will get a similar result with your actual cfunc and therefore can (and should IMO) use method (1) in both Python 2 and 3 -- but of course not being able to measure it myself it may turn out I'm wrong.