Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'debugging': 0.05; '21,': 0.07; 'compile-time': 0.07; '"source': 0.09; '22,': 0.09; 'code"': 0.09; 'english,': 0.09; 'spelling': 0.09; 'applies': 0.15; 'finished': 0.15; 'anybody.': 0.16; 'declared,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'oct': 0.16; 'programmer,': 0.16; 'sure.': 0.16; 'terms;': 0.16; 'mon,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'variables': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'code,': 0.18; 'variable': 0.20; "i've": 0.23; '(this': 0.24; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'am,': 0.27; 'language.': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.28; 'chris': 0.28; 'behaving': 0.29; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'piece': 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'error': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'print': 0.32; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.33; 'another': 0.33; 'that,': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'apply.': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'sometimes': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'totally': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'too': 0.36; 'does': 0.37; 'why': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'apply': 0.39; 'called': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'life': 0.66; 'cut': 0.71; 'paper': 0.78; '6:11': 0.84; 'alone,': 0.84; 'different.': 0.84; 'man,': 0.84; 'standing': 0.84; '9:00': 0.91; 'instant': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=A5JVK4IGtytw8260PGvCutJTzyf6RCvhtknHbaPgzlI=; b=ObHwvZcoPkl6/jco7BVKdTU17uft/HJ5+JxpZ7w40dqGmAizemGJTZ2JcdvaUh8tD+ MdXKwajZ5l7aHKfRbqljRpjpkjM+8zSHRMp+8PBfLQkHZSW97GUqizYz8hcvrDrfLTHq M1jcXIDfJCQCUqGX2gpWrZzL922u4oR/zX+zknR/uVFXc5V17ddRtTVfcjeotE2Vn3Db IU2lyBLBkofA132DOASplcnh3Ik9hW6FS4O+bYvmnZYSHwmsr+3Pqh6k/szqHW77DWBa VM2dYWe8ESUOTlX2MOSkJTv0zkXRhqsnhR/h5kIUNl4jiDsjxJHSyCysEbnVqWrbG9bj w/mw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <508448c6$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <5081d0c3$0$30003$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5083ad3e$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5083c7da$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <508448c6$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 07:22:18 +1100 Subject: Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1350850942 news.xs4all.nl 6915 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35814 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:31861 On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:43:07 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Steven D'Aprano >> wrote: >>> Er, no. Note spelling of "source code" vs "souce code". Hence the grin. >> >> Ahh. I totally didn't see that, I'm way too used to reading past typos. > > As a programmer, doesn't that screw up your debugging ability? Reading-past-typos applies mainly to English, which is a pretty redundant language. In code, it would only apply to variable names; with (effectively) single words/tokens standing alone, the automatic correction doesn't really apply. But yes, sometimes I have stared at a piece of code for a long time without knowing why there's an error on line X. (This is another good reason to require that all variables be declared, incidentally. I might have a variable called "source" but not "souce", so using the other causes an instant compile-time failure on the exact line with the bug.) And Grant, I agree; PHP does not make life easy. >> Sure. Printing out *source* code, that's altogether different. >> >> Me, though, I don't print anything. Paper and I are not exactly on >> speaking terms; the last time we met, he cut me, and that's one of the >> rudest things you can do to someone. > > Man, you must have deserved it. Paper, he don't just cut anybody. Perhaps. Also, perhaps I've just finished Hell Week and am behaving less than sanely, with a strong tendency to quote/reference Through The Looking Glass. :) ChrisA