Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ben Finney Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2016 03:56:08 +1100 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <56d16e6a$0$1593$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de CFGvlU0/UYiUE6tXDovSqwovxzsEw5ny9tePohULbCrg== Cancel-Lock: sha1:g+78BdG0CXCI+tnvLaEvgiQPYoI= Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.118 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.80; '*S*': 0.04; 'subject:: [': 0.03; 'before.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; '2016': 0.16; 'describing': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'sad': 0.16; 'subject:exception': 0.16; 'unconnected': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'subject:] ': 0.19; 'am,': 0.23; 'feb': 0.23; 'wrote': 0.23; 'mon,': 0.24; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'experiences': 0.27; 'larry': 0.29; 'sure,': 0.29; 'anyone': 0.32; 'express': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'needed': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'turn': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'someone': 0.38; 'subject:-': 0.39; 'rather': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'him': 0.60; 'back': 0.62; 'him,': 0.67; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.70; 'drug': 0.72; 'subject:skip:M 10': 0.72; '8bit%:46': 0.76; 'article': 0.77; '_o__)': 0.84; 'delusions': 0.84; 'memories': 0.84; 'observer': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'subject:author': 0.84; '\xe2\x80\x9cwe': 0.84; 'effects.': 0.91; 'inefficient': 0.91; 'misleading': 0.91; 'regret': 0.91; 'story.': 0.96 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:103734 Ian Kelly writes: > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Larry Martell wrote: > > I found this to be a very sad story. Sure, he had some issues, but I > > don't think they needed to drug him, and take all that he had > > learned away from him and turn him back into what he was before. > > "All that he had learned" meaning his delusions and psychoses? Indeed. If a revelation is unconnected to reality, it's misleading to say that one has “learned” it. Also, I don't see how anyone “took away” those experiences. He wrote an article describing them and clearly still retains those experiences as memories to recall as he wishes. When someone describes the ill effects their mental illness produced, I find it rather condescending for an observer to express regret that the person no longer experiences those ill effects. -- \ “We have clumsy, sputtering, inefficient brains…. It is a | `\ *struggle* to be rational and objective, and failures are not | _o__) evidence for an alternative reality.” —Paul Z. Myers, 2010-10-14 | Ben Finney