Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: empty clause of for loops Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 09:23:32 +0100 Organization: None Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <56E93413.6090108@mail.de> <20160316143934.5ca70b77@bigbox.christie.dr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de GmED1aUozRtVySpsvWNlUgfizLNCT2VEG3J9olID12tQ== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'none:': 0.05; 'mentions': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; '-tkc': 0.16; 'item:': 0.16; 'iterable': 0.16; 'none]': 0.16; 'object()': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:dip0.t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'received:t-ipconnect.de': 0.16; 'sentinel': 0.16; 'sequence:': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'tim': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'chase': 0.29; 'that.': 0.30; "i'd": 0.31; 'problem': 0.33; 'something': 0.35; 'item': 0.35; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'stuff': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'received:de': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'further': 0.62; 'otten': 0.84; 'stronger': 0.84; 'wait,': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p57bd90e1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: KNode/4.13.3 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:105072 Tim Chase wrote: > On 2016-03-16 16:53, Peter Otten wrote: >> > item=None >> > for item in items: >> > #do stuff >> if item is None: >> > #do something else >> >> I like that better now I see it. > > The only problem with that is if your iterable returns None as the > last item: I was aware of that. In practice I'd ensure the stronger "sentinel must not occur in the iterable": > items = ["Something here", None] > item = None > for item in items: assert item is not None > print(repr(item)) > if item is None: > print("Empty iterable") # wait, no it's not! > > You'd have to use a sentinel like Ruud mentions further up-list: > > x = sentinal = object() > for x in sequence: > print(repr(x)) > if x is sentinal: > print("Empty iterable") > > -tkc