Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.053 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'true,': 0.04; 'width': 0.07; 'assembler': 0.09; 'high-level': 0.09; 'preserve': 0.09; 'spreading': 0.09; 'sat,': 0.15; 'buggy': 0.16; 'cli': 0.16; 'defaulting': 0.16; 'oct': 0.16; 'refactoring': 0.16; 'soap,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'code.': 0.20; 'do.': 0.21; 'orientation': 0.22; 'cheers,': 0.23; 'nearly': 0.23; "i've": 0.23; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'pages,': 0.27; 'displays': 0.27; 'fixed': 0.28; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'prints': 0.29; 'src': 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'source': 0.29; 'probably': 0.29; "we're": 0.30; 'that.': 0.30; 'url:non-standard http port': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'gets': 0.32; "aren't": 0.33; 'defense': 0.33; 'up!': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; "can't": 0.34; 'doing': 0.35; 'table': 0.35; "won't": 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'characters': 0.36; 'limitation': 0.36; 'october': 0.37; 'does': 0.37; 'option': 0.37; 'drop': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'nothing': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'charset:windows-1256': 0.61; 'office': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.62; 'preparation': 0.62; 'gone': 0.64; 'sunday': 0.65; 'listings': 0.66; 'received:204': 0.72; 'paper': 0.78; 'printers': 0.84; 'received:66.118': 0.84; 'dennis': 0.91; 'dozen': 0.91; 'edwards': 0.91; 'good,': 0.91; 'sheets': 0.91; 'drink': 0.93 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 X-Spam-Level: From: Gene Heskett To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 07:08:43 -0400 References: <5083ad3e$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <5083ad3e$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 43 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1350817736 news.xs4all.nl 6871 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60077 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:31845 On Sunday 21 October 2012 07:02:26 Steven D'Aprano did opine: > On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 14:18:47 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2012-10-20, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > >> Strangely, we've gone from 80-character fixed width displays to > >> > >> who-knows-what (if I drop my font size I can probably get nearly 200 > >> characters across in full-screen mode)... > >> > >> But at the same time we've gone from 132-character line-printers > >> > >> using fan-fold 11x17 pages, to office inkjet/laser printers using > >> 8.5x11 paper, defaulting to portrait orientation -- with a 10 > >> character/inch font, and 1/4" left/right margins, we're back to 80 > >> character limitation > >> > >> > >> > > True, but nobody prints source code out on paper do they? > > I do. > > There's nothing better than spreading out a dozen sheets of source code > over a table to get a good, high-level overview of what does what in > preparation to refactoring it. > > > Seriously -- I can't remember the last time I printed souce code... > > I've never printed souce code either *wink* So do I, but I often am looking at assembler listings with the assembler set for 132 chars a line to preserve the src codes comments, so lp gets a use 17 cpi option on the cli that makes the listing. I probably recycle 2 reams of paper a year doing exactly that. Those who won't take advantage of that are doomed to publish buggy code. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: is up! Not all men who drink are poets. Some of us drink because we aren't poets.