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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 17:17:12 +1000
Subject: Re: PyWart: The problem with "print"
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On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 06/02/2013 12:18 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
>> On Sunday, June 2, 2013 12:49:02 PM UTC-5, Dan Sommers wrote:
>>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 03:20:52 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Rick Johnson
>>> [...] Or use the logging module.  It's easy to get going quickly
>>> (just call logging.basicConfig at startup time), and with a little
>>> care and feeding, you can control the output in more ways than can
>>> fit into the margin. Oh, yeah, I'm sure it introduces some
>>> overhead.  So does everything else.
>>
>> I hate log files, at least during development or testing. I prefer to
>> debug on the command line or using my IDE. Log files are for release
>> time, not development.
>
> Except that it's not.  Have you even looked at what the logging module
> is?  It most certainly can log to stderr if you provide no logging
> handler to write to a file.

Plus, writing to a file actually makes a lot of sense for development
too. It's far easier to run the program the same way in dev and
release, which often means daemonized. I like to have Upstart manage
all my services, for instance.

ChrisA