Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'float': 0.07; '101': 0.09; '[1]:': 0.09; '[2]:': 0.09; '[3]:': 0.09; 'integers': 0.09; 'try:': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'def': 0.12; 'changes': 0.15; '100x': 0.16; '2):': 0.16; '381': 0.16; '[4]:': 0.16; 'cc:name:python list': 0.16; 'docstring': 0.16; 'file;': 0.16; 'internally': 0.16; 'last)': 0.16; 'nameerror:': 0.16; 'opens,': 0.16; 'scratch': 0.16; 'subject:flow': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'basically': 0.19; 'meant': 0.20; 'import': 0.22; 'tests': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'load': 0.23; 'typical': 0.24; 'initial': 0.24; 'math': 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'script': 0.25; 'defined': 0.27; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'function': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; '1-3': 0.31; '100000': 0.31; '4.0': 0.31; 'assert': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'probably': 0.32; "we're": 0.32; 'quite': 0.32; '(most': 0.33; 'except': 0.35; 'convert': 0.35; 'done.': 0.35; 'test': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'executing': 0.36; 'false': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'positive': 0.37; 'too': 0.37; 'step': 0.37; 'handle': 0.38; 'whatever': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'launch': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'negative': 0.60; 'then,': 0.60; 'took': 0.61; 'name': 0.63; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; 'close': 0.67; '10000': 0.68; 'paper': 0.75; '100': 0.79; 'forward,': 0.84; 'hardly': 0.84; 'optimisation': 0.84; 'oscar': 0.84; 'repeat.': 0.84; 'rusi': 0.91; 'baby': 0.95; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tEAj15aGWwYkDR5+2VzC+qzXCpy5V8BpEV6nnarAHjI=; b=EVipjPHp27V9XRQ/0H4iWIW96RDv164zspAH3HSPMTh50Ew7C/LBgl3QcUiR065UTI Yxiazs3AJeWMeC84kKlwOXe9O0B4RVprVGJA1wDirYbT6vG5yr6u+ZbpFJJI5XL62VX0 GHsxoASBGVcjIIlYzao4cUwi9fgrPqWUfhfikh2fCMeiaf6Dq4VwOmZ+mFGViW5DmuZh EK7rm50W8GRnVu520PUAscdK01T7iBcnpRwoqECOtsIL/s/4zF67G0QL5B8plYYQvM61 YxBqSxIomgTy6BfpK+fsSUUzNDzXG3flsP2yCKB316IU3Ox6nHV0eINAaRUa5F54LMmA uZIQ== X-Received: by 10.58.187.47 with SMTP id fp15mr1060251vec.22.1379932872726; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 03:41:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <61d45045-187c-4be7-9da4-21a3124b753f@googlegroups.com> From: Oscar Benjamin Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:40:52 +0100 Subject: Re: reload and work flow suggestions To: rusi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Python List X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 194 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1379932881 news.xs4all.nl 15905 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:47356 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:54627 On 23 September 2013 10:35, rusi wrote: >> Then, I launch iPython, which can intellisense launch 3 easily. Then I m= ake >> whatever changes I need to 1-3 to make a baby step forward, close iPytho= n, >> and repeat. > > Hardly looks very ergonomic to me I'm not quite sure what's meant by intellisense here but using ipython with a scratch script works very well for me. Here's how a typical session works for writing a sqrt_floor() function that works for all positive integers: In [1]: import math In [2]: math.sqrt(16) Out[2]: 4.0 In [3]: math.sqrt(15) Out[3]: 3.872983346207417 In [4]: int(math.sqrt(15)) Out[4]: 3 In [5]: x =3D 10 ** 20 + 1 In [6]: int(math.sqrt(x ** 2)) =3D=3D x Out[6]: False In [7]: edit tmp.py [At this point vim opens, I do some working on paper and write the following in vim: import math def sqrt_floor(y): x =3D int(y) while x ** 2 <=3D y < (x+1) ** 2: x =3D (x + y // x) // 2 return x ] done. Executing edited code... In [8]: sqrt_floor(100) Out[8]: 100 In [9]: sqrt_floor(101) Out[9]: 101 [Okay whoops! that's not what I wanted... Need to invert the condition in the while loop!] In [10]: edit tmp.py done. Executing edited code... In [11]: edit tmp.py done. Executing edited code... In [12]: sqrt_floor(101) Out[12]: 10 In [13]: sqrt_floor(100) Out[13]: 10 In [14]: x =3D 10 ** 20 + 1 In [15]: sqrt_floor(x ** 2) =3D=3D x Out[15]: True [Okay that's better] In [16]: edit tmp.py [Now I'll test against a load of integers so the file looks like import math def sqrt_floor(y): x =3D int(y) while not (x ** 2 <=3D y < (x+1) ** 2): x =3D (x + y // x) // 2 return x for y in range(10 ** 6): x =3D sqrt_floor(y) assert x ** 2 <=3D y < (x+1) ** 2 ] done. Executing edited code... [All tests have passed but it took a little while so let's time this functi= on] In [17]: timeit sqrt(10 ** 10) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- NameError Traceback (most recent call last) NameError: global name 'sqrt' is not defined In [18]: from math import sqrt In [19]: timeit sqrt(10 ** 10) 1000000 loops, best of 3: 393 ns per loop In [20]: timeit sqrt_floor(10 ** 10) 10000 loops, best of 3: 52.4 us per loop In [21]: edit tmp.py [Since sqrt is 100x faster we can use it internally to get an initial guess= . Now the file looks like: import math def sqrt_floor(y): x =3D int(math.sqrt(y)) while not (x ** 2 <=3D y < (x+1) ** 2): x =3D (x + y // x) // 2 return x for y in range(10 ** 6): x =3D sqrt_floor(y) assert x ** 2 <=3D y < (x+1) ** 2 ] done. Executing edited code... In [22]: timeit sqrt_floor(10 ** 10) 100000 loops, best of 3: 4.58 us per loop [Great. That's 10x faster than before and probably as good as it gets for speed but this optimisation has problems...] In [23]: sqrt_floor(10 ** 1000) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- OverflowError Traceback (most recent call last) in () ----> 1 sqrt_floor(10 ** 1000) Q:\tmp.py in sqrt_floor(y) 2 3 def sqrt_floor(y): ----> 4 x =3D int(math.sqrt(y)) 5 while not (x ** 2 <=3D y < (x+1) ** 2): 6 x =3D (x + y // x) // 2 OverflowError: long int too large to convert to float In [24]: edit tmp.py [Now the file looks like import math def sqrt_floor(y): try: x =3D int(math.sqrt(y)) except OverflowError: x =3D y while not (x ** 2 <=3D y < (x+1) ** 2): x =3D (x + y // x) // 2 return x for y in range(10 ** 6): x =3D sqrt_floor(y) assert x ** 2 <=3D y < (x+1) ** 2 ] done. Executing edited code... [ This reruns the tests in the file; no AssertionError so all good ] In [25]: sqrt_floor(10 ** 1000) Out[25]: 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000= 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000= 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000= 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000= 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000= 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000= 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000L In [26]: timeit sqrt(10 ** 10) 1000000 loops, best of 3: 381 ns per loop And now we're basically done. Recheck the proof, think about how to handle negative numbers, write a docstring and move on. Oscar