Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.039 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'makefile': 0.09; 'language,': 0.12; "wouldn't": 0.14; "'include'": 0.16; 'directive': 0.16; 'erik': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'googling': 0.16; 'retained': 0.16; 'tool.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'mon,': 0.24; 'sort': 0.25; 'source': 0.25; 'class.': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'technology.': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'along': 0.30; 'lines': 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; 'agreed.': 0.31; 'piece': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'class': 0.32; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'building': 0.35; 'doing': 0.36; 'requirements': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'system,': 0.38; 'stopped': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'bad': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'improved': 0.60; 'middle': 0.60; 'problems.': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'simply': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'hearing': 0.63; 'wanting': 0.93; 'subject: #': 0.96; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rdOAsuGSUkFZsBleST3QRggbDoQFm/7LLLKC3P493HU=; b=0ZMLg/LVdaq8DITZayNO0CgmAWXREVmqsaiVHvfYgHBK91V54A/73CbDzAneKLE8Et IV+5ArdXM4eYAWGpvdiWb9Y4SSJdPpShtQHIZJ+/CLw8j4g5/+XWbD4wtJ5Z6Mym51JP RLicvrSzTcag0+AO3W8JeGAbGrTMRfuT6bkFOebHDRF9Q86TeJ36v/UkbH92PrFBkgPf JT5TatRf44p0rdNBPC2PnVpMxGjKpeZiyOzP83ZotOR8OOQ8TF5b86Mq1Nm+DU1I9cAR hyRvEDAo9ujZaaaO6/8RgedljNElGD9+eMUwXcx+BNeNzG/cstav6oMMA0kf203f9if2 M0zA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.65.238 with SMTP id a14mr13567976vdt.24.1370225150067; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 19:05:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 12:05:49 +1000 Subject: Re: Python #ifdef From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1370225159 news.xs4all.nl 15880 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56825 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:46751 On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Erik Max Francis wrote: > On 05/29/2013 08:05 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> It's not a bad tool. I used it as a sort of PHP preprocessor, because >> requirements at work had me wanting to have a source file defining a >> PHP class and having an autogenerated section in the middle of that >> class. PHP's 'include' directive doesn't work for that. Of course, had >> we been using a better language, that wouldn't have been an issue (and >> it stopped being an issue when we improved the design and stopped >> using that class system, too, though I retained the makefile >> directives about building .php.m4 -> .php files). But still, GNU M4 is >> >> a decent piece of technology. > > > Agreed. The terror that most people feel when hearing "m4" is because m4 > was associated with sendmail, not because m4 was inherently awful. It has > problems, but you'd only encounter them when doing something _very_ > abstract. Ah. I actually wasn't aware of m4's use with sendmail. I first met it as the aforementioned PHP preprocessor, simply by Googling for something along the lines of "generic preprocessor". First hit solved my problems. ChrisA