Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Suggestion: make sequence and map interfaces more similar Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 00:11:49 +1100 Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <56fb677f$0$11121$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <56fba7d3$0$1616$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <56fbc518$0$1593$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <56fbf73d$0$1591$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <56fc8e09$0$1600$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <56fcfdc6$0$1612$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <56FD086F.2090301@rece.vub.ac.be> <56FD2158.2050406@rece.vub.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 08QXIkMGlyx07bTLLVIacwOKiPFSsVXdeaaOV42dfYyA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.035 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'mess': 0.09; 'thread': 0.10; 'python': 0.10; 'accordingly.': 0.13; 'argument': 0.15; '2016': 0.16; 'discuss.': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:interfaces': 0.16; 'subject:make': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'position:': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'slightly': 0.23; 'examples': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.24; 'example': 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'fri,': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'far,': 0.29; 'knows': 0.32; "i'll": 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'instead': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; '(and': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'beyond': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'some': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'subject:more': 0.61; 'real': 0.62; 'strange': 0.63; 'personal': 0.63; 'different': 0.63; 'request.': 0.66; 'judge': 0.66; 'worth': 0.67; 'act': 0.67; 'yourself': 0.73; 'angelico:': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'schreef': 0.84; 'toy': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=xm0zipnnJOVKOuPHKSDzFuYjFa1BtjvV6WuzHNe3Nb4=; b=SyBwC5TKnGQsjP0VGo/e/QxoBfQ9jC7ZLakwbled8fkBtUWCpaK4hZBIPYQIuwuL4+ SRtvmQFY5VRke1fOS3ItJ4Vjp9yH3zSOY1zHRp1JN7nRkDakR1+ygO6EZyNWkXW3ua2G uhcx2wP2s9EnEWO33jNTvtOO4+4BKmM9peP81KGA1zw3oIQv4EttkUxLLmq7N8lG7/tG stfLDPUoNrrEsxUigh5rvm2WQD9NCbnTXkXMzysuRe1kKlCfoyrKxJE+zAWPhqooyDGm rAgmC8VnG26qx3W9MxgBH6PnEbtM4UY/GOVFTQXM91AJxSiSmWoAAeHkZmYZdOzxV/zG xYYw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=xm0zipnnJOVKOuPHKSDzFuYjFa1BtjvV6WuzHNe3Nb4=; b=iWRDiZg1utdWm4em3LqpUxNS3ElXT2ZpobagLYSJ1zI+LQaWpcn+ljHgwZVf0XDPGf 3o0fmxvQxovCkjFWYzEfNJIHTpbAsWDB/De0Z8qenRl+mtM+matjOQEfSzsKQH0n3tq1 RJ4nxp2ak4kO3UQQeFudXt4gC7wQQSgpHmPg2ksfXKLknVFfLQQg+Uga+kcMv8xxFNKq 1Kj4iNAY/6e1cA92frPHdz+046K+/f4mJeSwCw0zMxx9MAeV3XbfBLW+3X1D6FhM+x7k gGOr5b64V0O2ETKkjrM0j6qtjiPxRIVm71jCVBouISit2/bHY7NPniUf8SbJdErrGOe5 2Weg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJCfnMr20xTisTtSGisUM3FmRS893UDQmPdmaw+SK6T6Ln8DDjUT4ykR7VlpHmFf7uL/QxSGEfa8YO6vw== X-Received: by 10.107.137.101 with SMTP id l98mr7764314iod.31.1459429909407; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 06:11:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56FD2158.2050406@rece.vub.ac.be> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:106154 On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:08 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 31-03-16 om 13:57 schreef Chris Angelico: >> Okay. I'll put a slightly different position: Prove that your proposal >> is worth discussing by actually giving us an example that we can >> discuss. So far, this thread has had nothing but toy examples (and >> bogoexamples that prove nothing beyond that the author knows how to >> mess with Python - fun, but not a strong argument on either side). >> Give us some real meat to work with, instead of these drips of >> tantalizing blood. > > What a strange request. Whether or not something is worth discussing > is a personal judgement. So there can be no proof of such a thing. > I would say: judge for yourself and act accordingly. Plonk. ChrisA