Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!uio.no!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.011 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'list?': 0.07; 'referring': 0.07; 'moderator': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:skip:c 10': 0.09; 'jan': 0.12; 'discarded.': 0.16; 'gmane': 0.16; "headers'": 0.16; 'originate': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'filtering': 0.24; 'sends': 0.24; 'posts': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'originally': 0.30; 'that.': 0.31; '(perhaps': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'addresses': 0.33; 'alone': 0.33; 'there,': 0.34; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'knows': 0.35; 'no,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'half': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'email addr:python.org': 0.37; 'list.': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'displays': 0.38; 'filter': 0.38; 'gmail': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'new': 0.61; 'took': 0.61; 'received:173': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'god': 0.65; 'believe': 0.68; 'benefit': 0.68; 'gotten': 0.74; 'day': 0.76; 'forced': 0.84; 'one).': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Most discussion on comp.lang.python is about developing with Python Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 19:53:45 -0500 References: <5283E2AC.6080500@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-59-117-133.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 41 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1384390440 news.xs4all.nl 15927 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34200 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:59371 On 11/13/2013 6:27 PM, Rhodri James wrote: > On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 22:53:46 -0000, Terry Reedy wrote: > >> On 11/13/2013 3:35 PM, bob gailer wrote: >> >>> Is there a moderator for this list? >> >> Posts from new addresses go to moderators for spam deletion. There are >> a couple a day that are discarded. Posts with 'suspicious headers' >> also get checked. Non-suspicious posts from known people (perhaps 90%) >> do not get checked. We have not yet gotten into 'censorship' of >> trolling and flaming. I would prefer not being forced into considering >> it. > > This is true of python-list. comp.lang.python the Usenet newsgroup is > not moderated. God alone knows what Googlegroups thinks it's doing. On 11/13/2013 6:50 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:> On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 1 > Terry, perhaps you are referring to the python@python.org mailing list. Yes, I took 'list' to mean 'mailing list', not 'newsgroup'. > But this is also a newsgroup, Two newsgroups, comp.lang.python and gmane.comp.python.general, and (indirectly, I believe) a googlegroup. > and I believe that there is no moderator on that. No, not on any of them. However, as near as I can tell, gmane sends posts to python-list first and only displays and archives posts that go out to the list (and back to gmane, if they originate there, like this one). Gmane also has a spam filter and after-the-fact spam reporting. People on c.l.p and py g.g. benefit from filtering of spam originally sent to the list or gmane. About half of it originates from gmail acounts but I do not know (and have not checked) whether gmail posts come directly or via gg. -- Terry Jan Reedy