Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.034 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'beginner': 0.05; 'subject:into': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'ignoring': 0.16; 'op.': 0.16; 'threads.': 0.16; 'url:tutor': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; 'written': 0.21; 'programming': 0.22; 'email addr:gmail.com>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'certainly': 0.24; 'tend': 0.24; 'helpful': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; '>': 0.26; 'posts': 0.26; 'least': 0.26; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'usually': 0.31; '13,': 0.31; 'subject:Database': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'there.': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'community': 0.33; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'interaction': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'list.': 0.37; 'problems': 0.38; 'generic': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'skip:& 20': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'contributing': 0.60; 'problems.': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'tell': 0.60; 'simple': 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'flame': 0.84; 'oscar': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=KIQBQaKPxZv6Xj7vtYG3BIZ1fZqDRpNAYux8dLnDEn8=; b=EM95WUmtCbykrsvfexSLzowsURv22hUQKPvqMDsrmkQVb2yWj7Uzns81ErzLLLg52m 2TtPcC+ujEPdWoxh6Q2VQRj5MowXpqf+5jPzbdbjuNp5Bs/zvZtWySbSVeIiC4e/h3rK Pu61WHLXpcRaZSZYzdSONp3P9aoIz9xGCjM6NdvKqKj9g1k9Ly2snUx58c1sTwhwFIIP k080w6mRMXuYcjz4dgjef2E+ucMhA27JNCr51ZvyEAOSZYTDbRsWRcHGCWWjzC53h/kb 3vvf+tqo0iellw0MOdMOPVC4duNfZ0e/JSeYvbms7Yp3nU+N3IWygdJFzJ+Re8eC3lEV s76g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.122.65 with SMTP id k1mr33015vcr.97.1384371401835; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 11:36:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <527a5f79$1@news.synserver.de> <1ac21a4c-179e-40aa-a552-85b5e2a74b3d@googlegroups.com> <5281F03E.9000603@rece.vub.ac.be> <528256DC.1000808@rece.vub.ac.be> <5283419F.5030509@rece.vub.ac.be> <5283CCB5.5050005@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 19:36:41 +0000 Subject: Re: To whoever hacked into my Database From: Oscar Benjamin To: superchromix Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c25162a4e58604eb1415d3 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 57 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1384371404 news.xs4all.nl 15922 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59736 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:59332 --001a11c25162a4e58604eb1415d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Nov 13, 2013 6:31 PM, "superchromix" wrote: > > I've been thinking about learning Python for scientific programming.. but all of these flame war type posts make the user community look pretty lame. How did all of these nice packages get written when most of the user interaction is .... this?? This isn't usually what happens on this list. Most people on this list (myself included) are ignoring or at least not contributing to these particular threads. > > Can anyone tell me, is there another newsgroup where the discussion is more on python programming? For a beginner I would certainly recommend the python-tutor list. I've never seen a flame war there. Threads tend to stay on-topic and are usually helpful to the OP. The tutor list is for generic python problems but you can usually get help for simple scientific programming problems. https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor Oscar --001a11c25162a4e58604eb1415d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Nov 13, 2013 6:31 PM, "superchromix" <markb77@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I've been thinking about learning Python for scientific programmin= g.. but all of these flame war type posts make the user community look pret= ty lame. =A0How did all of these nice packages get written when most of the= user interaction is .... this??

This isn't usually what happens on this list. Most people on this li= st (myself included) are ignoring or at least not contributing to these par= ticular threads.

>
> Can anyone tell me, is there another newsgroup where the discussion is= more on python programming?

For a beginner I would certainly recommend the python-tutor list. I'= ve never seen a flame war there. Threads tend to stay on-topic and are usua= lly helpful to the OP. The tutor list is for generic python problems but yo= u can usually get help for simple scientific programming problems.

https://mail.= python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Oscar

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