Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.042 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'finite': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'rfc': 0.09; 'behaviour.': 0.16; 'fix,': 0.16; 'personally,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; "shouldn't": 0.18; 'function,': 0.22; 'implemented': 0.24; 'discussion': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'subject:list': 0.26; '(which': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'correct': 0.28; 'interface': 0.29; 'feature,': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'implement': 0.32; 'subject:all': 0.32; 'fail': 0.35; 'lists.': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'needed': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'doing': 0.38; 'manual': 0.38; 'delete': 0.38; 'anything': 0.38; 'mailing': 0.38; 'google': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'clients': 0.61; 'information': 0.63; 'world': 0.64; 'forums': 0.66; 'choose': 0.68; 'mail,': 0.72; 'presented': 0.72; 'obvious': 0.76; '_o__)': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'subject:author': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: Reply to author, reply to list, reply to all Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 17:38:23 +1000 References: <56f811b9-aa5c-45c2-9daf-888a4b239f2f@googlegroups.com> <2579215.WiH7nXzSoB@PointedEars.de> <85pp1s86ox.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JSg6tadP9HtH8JTvjD5CYuSIdDI= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1441784406 news.xs4all.nl 23771 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41206 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:96167 Chris Angelico writes: > Personally, what I do (which I'm doing with this post) is to use > Gmail's "reply-all" feature, and then manually delete the individual > addresses. That is testimony in support of the position that Google Mail is a poorly-designed interface for discussion forums such as mailing lists. Google Mail, like any other mail client, has full access to all the technical information (specified in RFC 3696) needed to implement a correct “reply to list” behaviour. Users shouldn't need to do anything tediously manual like you describe, they should be presented with an obvious “reply to the same place” function, as implemented in many mail clients for over a decade. That Google Mail continues to fail in this regard is something its users need to apply pressure to fix, or choose better mail clients until it improves. -- \ “Anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a | `\ finite world is either a madman or an economist.” —Kenneth | _o__) Boulding | Ben Finney