Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!feed.xsnews.nl!border-2.ams.xsnews.nl!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'lines.': 0.07; 'width': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'spreading': 0.09; 'caring': 0.16; 'code?': 0.16; 'defaulting': 0.16; 'describing': 0.16; 'did.': 0.16; 'frankly': 0.16; 'limit,': 0.16; 'oct': 0.16; 'reason.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'people,': 0.21; 'orientation': 0.22; 'stick': 0.22; 'nearly': 0.23; 'least': 0.25; 'pages,': 0.27; 'displays': 0.27; 'fixed': 0.28; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'them?': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'probably': 0.29; "we're": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'point,': 0.33; 'url:home': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'everyone': 0.33; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'characters': 0.36; 'limitation': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'too': 0.36; 'charset :us-ascii': 0.36; 'beyond': 0.37; 'uses': 0.37; 'drop': 0.37; 'quite': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'office': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'between': 0.63; 'gone': 0.64; 'choose': 0.65; 'printers': 0.84; 'dennis': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:23:53 -0400 Organization: > Bestiaria Support Staff < References: <5081d0c3$0$30003$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-76-249-17-7.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1350692652 news.xs4all.nl 6884 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45906 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:31785 On 19 Oct 2012 22:14:27 GMT, Steven D'Aprano declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > I didn't say it did. I was describing some of the reasons people might > choose to stick to the 79 character limit, beyond the reason you gave, > which quite frankly is the least important reason. 80 character > terminals? Who still uses them? Well, a few people, but they're in a > minority. But caring about the readability of code? Everyone needs to > read code at some point, and 79 characters is a good balance between > stuffing too much into a single line and spreading it out too thinly over > multiple lines. > Strangely, we've gone from 80-character fixed width displays to who-knows-what (if I drop my font size I can probably get nearly 200 characters across in full-screen mode)... But at the same time we've gone from 132-character line-printers using fan-fold 11x17 pages, to office inkjet/laser printers using 8.5x11 paper, defaulting to portrait orientation -- with a 10 character/inch font, and 1/4" left/right margins, we're back to 80 character limitation -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/