Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: UNSURE 0.214 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.59; '*S*': 0.01; 'impose': 0.09; 'subject:into': 0.09; 'aggressively': 0.16; 'coercion': 0.16; 'foul': 0.16; 'essential': 0.16; 'ignore': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'stick': 0.24; "haven't": 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'topic': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'subject:Database': 0.31; 'know.': 0.32; 'agree': 0.35; 'anybody': 0.35; 'no,': 0.35; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'culture': 0.36; "he's": 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'others.': 0.38; 'somebody': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; '12,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'ian': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'social': 0.69; 'physical': 0.72; 'power': 0.76; 'behavior': 0.77; 'ethan': 0.84; 'furman': 0.84; 'standing': 0.84; 'have.': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=GP84pbV1I1gGvIleLBudQiAqndBgd9mVih5ZVe8ur8M=; b=m+9Eyc/gpJSDsqMiVPW0MOh3NaRyDobU5qb3rGexWN6aNkAJrYRpgqkDSWtnkPxQ8T uGK6ywNQkm5qiIZOvZ4k0xEabI9zSKckhwiwOYhMVh8/ehiroNLB8aELvXM6Bgoo0/BL FGCJYSizCQXm820O08UkmcxS9FEIQ05AwtsAVH5yipGP5SH8P/aXA20bJPww1AgVJxXh yLoUSTK0zLgRJNfm64R+slSGva7zR+cvy7rFB8PBaQGFKzNfC1G13IWpjRZ9J8NEOsix u+GtzoXQ+PHYhM+R784LoHCrwrG1KAqM3wpxCgsGmRM1YtOVQWxoA841LgyUdvZLFSd0 9kng== X-Received: by 10.66.141.165 with SMTP id rp5mr42260638pab.90.1384346324513; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 04:38:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5282D3AF.9070508@stoneleaf.us> References: <527a5f79$1@news.synserver.de> <1ac21a4c-179e-40aa-a552-85b5e2a74b3d@googlegroups.com> <5281F03E.9000603@rece.vub.ac.be> <528256DC.1000808@rece.vub.ac.be> <5282A4A4.2060200@stoneleaf.us> <5282D3AF.9070508@stoneleaf.us> From: Ian Kelly Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 05:38:04 -0700 Subject: Re: To whoever hacked into my Database To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:05:40 +0100 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1384351541 news.xs4all.nl 15877 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53763 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:59300 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 11/12/2013 03:27 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: >>> >>> Every time he uses foul language against somebody he's acting like a >>> bully. >>> >>> Every time he reposts questions and ignores answers he's acting like a >>> bully. >>> >>> Every time he declares that what he wants is the most important and so he >>> is >>> going to ignore our culture and the topic of this forum/ml/ng he is >>> acting >>> like a bully. >>> >>> If you haven't seen those posts, I have. Now you know. >> >> >> Per Wikipedia: "Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to >> abuse, intimidate, or aggressively to impose domination over others. >> ... One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by >> others, of an imbalance of social or physical power." > > > So even though he is being verbally abusive, the fact that he's not standing > over me with a stick makes him not a bully? We'll have to agree to disagree > on this point. No, that's not my point. Who has more power in this social forum, you or Nikos? I don't condone Nikos' behavior in any way, but if anybody is acting like a bully here, it is the people attempting to intimidate and coerce him into leaving.