Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ben Finney Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: What should Python apps do when asked to show help? Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 12:49:20 +1000 Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <57223b76$0$22140$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <877ffhgnyf.fsf@nightsong.com> <0d5b5562-7a08-41de-8b84-a13f0792e767@googlegroups.com> <57232b34$0$1595$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <72444f12-784b-47b4-a80c-0ae53cf3b5a3@googlegroups.com> <57240856$0$1590$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <572413C9.2070405@stoneleaf.us> <1461982612.3299155.593966809.3D1A53FF@webmail.messagingengine.com> <41ec5af0-2ffa-4202-a5df-08f9660f7c57@googlegroups.com> <1461983791.3302675.593974129.5625C3C3@webmail.messagingengine.com> <85bn4rizf3.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de KGcL0bpYuPzIcM6eeNP+egPVPbn3D7kxgKVZdxI+OE0Q== Cancel-Lock: sha1:iKd0O8E5K/qCAAIHrF8CsWMscNQ= Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'subject:help': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'untouched.': 0.09; '(well,': 0.16; 'rather,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:show': 0.16; 'subject:when': 0.16; 'why,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'variable': 0.18; 'fairly': 0.22; "python's": 0.23; 'discussion': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; "doesn't": 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'fri,': 0.27; 'question': 0.27; 'environment': 0.29; 'but': 0.36; 'instead': 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'setting': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'difference': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'real': 0.62; 'between': 0.65; 'hate': 0.66; 'estate': 0.76; '_o__)': 0.84; 'ethan,': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'man.': 0.93; '\xe2\x80\x9cthe': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <85bn4rizf3.fsf@benfinney.id.au> X-Mailman-Original-References: <57223b76$0$22140$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <877ffhgnyf.fsf@nightsong.com> <0d5b5562-7a08-41de-8b84-a13f0792e767@googlegroups.com> <57232b34$0$1595$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <72444f12-784b-47b4-a80c-0ae53cf3b5a3@googlegroups.com> <57240856$0$1590$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <572413C9.2070405@stoneleaf.us> <1461982612.3299155.593966809.3D1A53FF@webmail.messagingengine.com> <41ec5af0-2ffa-4202-a5df-08f9660f7c57@googlegroups.com> <1461983791.3302675.593974129.5625C3C3@webmail.messagingengine.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:107897 Random832 writes: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016, at 22:27, Rustom Mody wrote: > > Instead it does some ½-assed fall-between-the-stools of both > > That doesn't answer the question of why, if you (Well, Ethan, but > you're taking the same position here) hate pagers so much That's not a question relevant here; nobody inthe discussion has a position fairly characterised as “hate pagers so much”. So you're arguing against a straw man. Rather, the position being argued is that they *do* like pagers; they like pagers enough that they want the existing ‘PAGER’ environment variable setting to remain untouched. And, simulatenously, they want Python's help to not use a pager at the interactive prompt. -- \ “The difference between religions and cults is determined by | `\ how much real estate is owned.” —Frank Zappa | _o__) | Ben Finney