Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'operator': 0.03; 'string.': 0.04; 'base.': 0.05; 'ascii': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'pep': 0.09; 'spelling': 0.09; 'to:addr:comp.lang.python': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'times,': 0.13; 'properly': 0.15; 'identifiers': 0.16; 'operators,': 0.16; 'operators.': 0.16; "someone's": 0.16; 'syntax.': 0.16; 'url:py3k': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'unicode': 0.17; 'code.': 0.20; 'email addr:gmail.com>': 0.20; 'trying': 0.21; 'doc': 0.22; 'driven': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; '>': 0.23; 'monday,': 0.23; "python's": 0.23; 'seems': 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'supported': 0.26; 'checking': 0.27; 'first,': 0.27; 'raw': 0.27; 'question': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.28; 'fixed': 0.28; 'actual': 0.28; 'chris': 0.28; 'arithmetic': 0.29; 'base,': 0.29; 'issues.': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'fri,': 0.30; 'url:python': 0.32; 'problem': 0.33; 'anyone': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'needed': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'add': 0.36; 'except': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'anything': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'possible': 0.37; 'rather': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'far': 0.37; 'data': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'object': 0.38; 'url:docs': 0.38; 'sure': 0.38; 'several': 0.39; 'gives': 0.39; 'july': 0.60; 'real': 0.61; 'solve': 0.62; 'behavior': 0.64; '20,': 0.65; 'jul': 0.65; 'want,': 0.65; 'lack': 0.71; '"i".': 0.84; 'accompany': 0.84; 'wandered': 0.84; 'url:tutorial': 0.93 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:50:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=65.121.27.85; posting-account=ZyQcGQoAAAAZW5gMTbmGw1vXb4aaH07e References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true X-Google-IP: 65.121.27.85 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: =?windows-1252?B?UmU6IHRoZSBtZWFuaW5nIG9mIHKSLi4uLi4uLpE=?= From: John Roth To: comp.lang.python@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1343091007 news.xs4all.nl 6933 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53621 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:25941 On Monday, July 23, 2012 1:59:42 AM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:56 PM, levi nie <levinie001@gmail.com> wr= ote: > > the meaning of r=E2=80=99.......=E2=80=98=EF=BC=9F >=20 > It's a raw string. >=20 > http://docs.python.org/py3k/tutorial/introduction.html#strings >=20 > Chris Angelico Since this seems to have wandered into the question of unicode support for = operators and identifiers in Python, I'll add a few general comments. First= , adding unicode operators has been discussed several times, and the answer= has always been what several people have stated: lack of support from keyb= oards and fonts. As far as I can tell, the only significant issue that unic= ode operators would solve is set operators. Currently they overload the ari= thmetic operators, so it's not possible to have an object with both arithme= tic and set behavior supported by operator syntax. I'm not sure how importa= nt that is in the real world. Identifiers can have any character that's marked as alphabetic in the unico= de data base. The doc gives the exact criteria, but it's driven by checking= the actual data base, or rather Python's copy of it. PEP 8 requires sticki= ng to the Ascii character set except for comments, and then only when it's = needed for properly spelling someone's name. Of course, anyone can do anyth= ing they want, but Python doesn't have a culture of deliberately trying to = write illegible code. And yes, Python did have a problem with the Turkish "i". It got fixed witho= ut all the sturm and drang that seems to accompany PHP issues.