Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'tries': 0.05; 'layers': 0.07; 'ugly': 0.07; 'python': 0.11; 'ignore': 0.14; 'backends': 0.16; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'parts,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'language': 0.19; 'progress.': 0.22; 'strict': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'paul': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'fine': 0.29; 'subject:other': 0.29; 'subject:all': 0.32; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'impression': 0.33; 'legacy': 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.35; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.35; 'c++': 0.35; 'really': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'except': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'should': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'hours': 0.63; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'rare': 0.66; 'subject:have': 0.80; 'confusion.': 0.84; 'pyjs,': 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.88 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at torriefamily.org Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 21:33:14 -0600 From: Michael Torrie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Ah Python, you have spoiled me for all other languages References: <555f440a$0$12990$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <874mn4z07p.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> In-Reply-To: <874mn4z07p.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1432352002 news.xs4all.nl 2881 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44754 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:91089 On 05/22/2015 05:00 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Steven D'Aprano writes: >> the impression I get after a couple of hours is that Javascript tries >> really hard to do everything it can for you except what you actually want. > > Javascript is like C++ in that it's a lot of layers of legacy cruft, but > if you ignore the ugly parts, the good parts that are left are fine to > program in, though there are still stupid issues of type confusion. > > If you like Haskell you should look at Purescript (purescript.org), > which is a Haskell-resembling language with strict evaluation, designed > to compile straightforwardly into Javascript and interoperate with it. > Several other backends are also available or in progress. Or if you are a rare one that likes Python, you can use PyJS, which translates Python into Javascript.