Path: csiph.com!1.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed0.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ethan Furman Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Quote of the day Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 17:59:50 -0700 Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <573acd5f$0$1603$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87twhxf5nl.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <8e92e249-c46e-4b92-a93b-778879461273@googlegroups.com> <573CFB2E.8000703@stoneleaf.us> <573d0c48$0$1595$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <573D1006.4030200@stoneleaf.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de DmI7B7chxuPBDmJw5fUEmg+GyF2mn8UiU8Yw+i6GHJlA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.020 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'thu,': 0.15; '2016': 0.16; 'decent': 0.16; 'dummy': 0.16; 'empty.': 0.16; 'gregory': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'responsible,': 0.16; 'sure.': 0.16; 'type),': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '>>>': 0.20; 'developers.': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; "doesn't": 0.26; 'developers': 0.26; 'have,': 0.27; 'function': 0.28; 'clever': 0.29; '~ethan~': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.30; 'putting': 0.30; 'guess': 0.31; 'problem': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'could': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; '(and': 0.36; "wasn't": 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'test': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'determine': 0.61; 'real': 0.62; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'attention.': 0.66; 'subject:day': 0.67; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'decorator.': 0.84; 'subject:Quote': 0.84; 'ethan': 0.91; 'furman': 0.91 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 In-Reply-To: <573d0c48$0$1595$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <573D1006.4030200@stoneleaf.us> X-Mailman-Original-References: <573acd5f$0$1603$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87twhxf5nl.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <8e92e249-c46e-4b92-a93b-778879461273@googlegroups.com> <573CFB2E.8000703@stoneleaf.us> <573d0c48$0$1595$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:108797 On 05/18/2016 05:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 19 May 2016 09:30 am, Ethan Furman wrote: > >> On 05/18/2016 03:52 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote: >>> Ned Batchelder wrote: >> >>>> I'm not sure how >>>> the test runner could determine that it was empty. I guess it could >>>> introspect the test function to see if it had any real code in it, >>> >>> Then people would just get clever at putting dummy code >>> in the test that fools the test runner but doesn't really >>> test anything... >> >> Some would have, sure. >> >> Either way, it's a solved issue now because we (finally ;) have the >> @skip decorator. > > That only solves the problem for responsible, decent developers. Since I'm not a manager (and when I was, I wasn't the PHB type), responsible, decent developers are where I focus my attention. -- ~Ethan~