Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!newsfeed.eweka.nl!eweka.nl!feeder3.eweka.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'ascii': 0.07; 'think,': 0.07; 'internally': 0.09; 'non-ascii': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'unicode,': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'silly': 0.16; 'mon,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'unicode': 0.17; 'programming': 0.23; 'mention': 0.23; 'least': 0.25; 'creating': 0.26; 'url:wiki': 0.26; 'raw': 0.27; 'ibm': 0.27; 'set.': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'chris': 0.28; 'character.': 0.29; 'url:wikipedia': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'included': 0.29; "we're": 0.30; '(and': 0.32; 'structure': 0.32; 'url:home': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'languages': 0.33; 'pm,': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'really': 0.36; 'created': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'some': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'url:en': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'day,': 0.60; 'ever': 0.63; 'jul': 0.65; 'subjectcharset:iso-8859-1': 0.67; 'smith': 0.71; 'subject::': 0.83; 'dennis': 0.91; 'widespread': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?the_meaning_of_r=3F..?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?.....=3F=BE?= Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:44:39 -0400 Organization: > Bestiaria Support Staff < References: <500d0632$0$1504$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-76-249-16-167.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1343065502 news.xs4all.nl 6925 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34874 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:25908 On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:06:45 +1000, Chris Angelico declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > > Some day, we're going to have programming languages that take advantage > > of the full unicode character set. Right now, we're working in ASCII > > and creating silly digrams/trigrams like r'' for raw strings (and triple-quotes for multi-line > > strings). Not to mention <=, >=, ==, !=. And in languages other than > > python, things like ->, => (arrows for structure membership), and so on. > > REXX predates Unicode, I think, or at least its widespread adoption, > but it has a non-ASCII operator: > > http://www.rexswain.com/rexx.html#operators > REXX was created for IBM systems that used EBCDIC... And IBM-specific terminals included that character. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBCDIC#Codepage_layout {EBCDIC was also used internally on SDS/XDS Sigma systems} And APL really predates Unicode -- ever look at an APL terminal? -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/