Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.031 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'decent': 0.07; '(there': 0.09; 'display,': 0.09; 'exceptions': 0.09; 'pm,': 0.10; 'received:209.85.214.174': 0.14; 'received:mail- iw0-f174.google.com': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'angelico': 0.16; 'laptops,': 0.16; 'netbook': 0.16; 'netbooks': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'case.': 0.16; 'issue.': 0.19; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.21; 'designs': 0.23; 'keys': 0.23; 'received:209.85.214': 0.28; 'mine': 0.29; 'subject:?': 0.29; 'shift': 0.30; 'seem': 0.32; 'done': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; "i've": 0.33; 'chris': 0.34; 'that,': 0.34; 'there': 0.35; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.35; 'using': 0.35; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.36; 'takes': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.37; 'keyboard': 0.37; 'another': 0.37; 'but': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'received:192': 0.38; 'received:209': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'current': 0.40; 'received:192.168.1': 0.40; 'almost': 0.60; 'more': 0.60; 'him,': 0.63; 'tiny': 0.68; 'collection': 0.72; '30%': 0.80; 'room.': 0.84; 'subject:Improve': 0.84; 'seriously,': 0.91; 'picture': 0.97 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ni3Q8lTuqxShW0MRBNaJ8xP/o9gR8/LtHeVCpxuwR08=; b=dArIKLrL1qqtzd5BbcsjiG59oMlrjqAYfuom1ZEw98B2yvIldanCLWNQVbdH9vyYtL QCvBa+Io4Ii7oA0YActGCDEuPdwIaEC482U7G/yeea/1iFXvkAyIN3eYQ3u5Z2AaTWt6 ey2Oj7e7gJaMCO16aDMafu7KgihpPoUaaGqOM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=lIdNowqA6ZUrSLzAXKcPMuAn/YqGJfbGMjLDj6p/+Nr8G4YnR0eexS5CbPlIPOrjs/ oTfWej1VKCVMuU9+wHUautGhJZUorbpHyyfpTY59N0KCXlpgTorY4y9iMKtqmf+ofEUm 52mNUmXBe8upUgNZnqMiWS155izrezQkwDNOw= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:23:09 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 ThunderBrowse/3.3.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "comp.lang.python" Subject: Re: Keyboard Layout: Dvorak vs Colemak: is it Worthwhile to Improve the Dvorak Layout? References: <355e201c-437c-4944-9ad0-ae401df02651@22g2000prx.googlegroups.com> <4f4bv6hn40jsgpecuelejc66n7rkhv17fj@4ax.com> <55f6d32d-4451-4547-a39d-634b69179236@d26g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <95nsppFirfU1@mid.individual.net> <4DF7E0AC.2070306@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1308100996 news.xs4all.nl 49175 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:58894 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:7659 On 2011.06.14 07:18 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > There are many different designs of laptop keyboard. Tiny netbooks > seem to have the very worst, leaving it nearly impossible to get any > decent work done (there may be exceptions to that, but I've seen a lot > of bad netbook keyboards). My current laptop is an IBM T60, one of the > last of the IBMs (now they're all Lenovos); prior to him, I've had > various other 14" or 15" laptops, all with the keyboards using most of > the available room. I thought that might be the case. I can take a picture of mine if you're keeping a collection of bad laptop keyboards. :D Seriously, I have a 17.1" display, and the keyboard is almost small enough for a large tablet. It takes up no more than 30% of the area available. Also, the left shift and left control keys don't want to work most of the time, but that's another issue.