Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'else:': 0.03; 'decent': 0.07; 'slice': 0.07; 'slices': 0.07; 'terry': 0.07; 'typed': 0.07; 'attribute': 0.09; 'lost.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'recursion': 0.09; 'successive': 0.09; 'tail': 0.09; 'def': 0.12; 'am,': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'alain': 0.16; 'chunks': 0.16; 'docstring': 0.16; 'handy': 0.16; 'lambda': 0.16; 'n):': 0.16; 'read:': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'sequence.': 0.16; 'slicing': 0.16; 'unneeded': 0.16; 'repeated': 0.19; 'rewrite': 0.19; 'yield': 0.19; 'writes:': 0.19; 'jan': 0.20; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.21; '(but': 0.22; 'subject:question': 0.23; 'trying': 0.23; 'translated': 0.23; 'code': 0.24; "doesn't": 0.25; 'index': 0.25; '(and': 0.25; 'moving': 0.26; 'object': 0.26; "i'm": 0.27; 'skip:p 30': 0.28; 'problem': 0.28; 'solving': 0.29; 'instead': 0.29; 'code,': 0.29; 'characters,': 0.30; 'looks': 0.31; 'equivalent': 0.31; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'familiar': 0.33; 'list': 0.33; '...': 0.34; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.35; 'latter': 0.35; 'couple': 0.35; 'else': 0.35; 'using': 0.35; 'several': 0.36; 'certain': 0.36; 'idea': 0.36; 'useful': 0.37; 'sequence': 0.37; 'think': 0.38; 'received:org': 0.38; 'could': 0.38; 'problem.': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'purposes': 0.38; 'returning': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'easier': 0.39; 'editor': 0.39; 'header:Mime-Version:1': 0.39; 'list,': 0.39; 'add': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'missing': 0.40; 'totally': 0.40; 'easily': 0.60; 'more': 0.60; 'huge': 0.62; 'grab': 0.63; 'plus': 0.65; 'spaces': 0.73; 'unnecessary': 0.73; 'saving': 0.74; 'clipping': 0.84; 'dense': 0.84; 'inferior': 0.84; 'packing': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Lambda question Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 14:33:42 -0400 References: <87fwnor5dd.fsf@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rain.gmane.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 In-Reply-To: <87fwnor5dd.fsf@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 83 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1307298836 news.xs4all.nl 49176 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:50385 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:7054 On 6/5/2011 5:31 AM, Alain Ketterlin wrote: > writes: > >>>>> f = lambda x, n, acc=[]: f(x[n:], n, acc+[(x[:n])]) if x else acc f=lambda ... statements are inferior for practical purposes to the equivalent def f statements because the resulting object is missing a useful name attribute and a docstring. f=lambda is only useful for saving a couple of characters, and the above has many unneeded spaces >>>>> f("Hallo Welt", 3) >> ['Hal', 'lo ', 'Wel', 't'] >> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/312443/how-do-you-split-a-list-into-evenly-s >> ized-chunks-in-python/312644 >> >> It doesn't work with a huge list, but looks like it could be handy in certain >> circumstances. I'm trying to understand this code, but am totally lost. > > With such dense code, it is a good idea to rewrite the code using some > more familiar (but equivalent) constructions. In that case: > > f = x, n, acc=[]: > x > f(x[n:], n, acc+[(x[:n])]) > > acc Yes, the following is much easier to read: def f(x, n, acc=[]): if x: return f(x[n:], n, acc + [x[:n]]) else: return acc And it can be easily translated to: def f(x,n): acc = [] while x: acc.append(x[:n]) # grab first n chars x = x[n:] # before clipping x return acc The repeated rebinding of x is the obvious problem. Returning a list instead of yielding chunks is unnecessary and a problem with large inputs. Solving the latter simplies the code to: def group(x,n): while x: yield x[:n] # grab first n chars x = x[n:] # before clipping x print(list(group('abcdefghik',3))) # ['abc', 'def', 'ghi', 'k'] Now we can think about slicing chunks out of the sequence by moving the slice index instead of slicing and rebinding the sequence. def f(x,n): for i in range(0,len(x),n): yield x[i:i+n] This is *more* useful that the original f= above and has several *fewer* typed characters, even is not all on one line (and decent editor add the indents automatically): def f(x,n): for i in range(0,len(x),n): yield x[i:i+n] f = lambda x, n, acc=[]: f(x[n:], n, acc+[(x[:n])]) if x else acc Packing tail recursion into one line is bad for both understanding and refactoring. Use better names and a docstring gives def group(seq, n): 'Yield from seq successive disjoint slices of length n plus the remainder' for i in range(0,len(seq), n): yield seq[i:i+] -- Terry Jan Reedy