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Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:03:49 -0500
Subject: Re: datetime question
From: Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com>
To: Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>
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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wro=
te:
> =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 12/11/2013 2:47 =CE=BC=CE=BC, =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Andy=
 Lawton =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5:
>>
>> Firstly , I should clarify I have no idea how to program python, I
>> joined this mailing list in anticipation of learning soon. And
>> thought I'd have a go playing around with your code and code given to
>> you (worst possible place to start, I'm sure)
>>
>> But from the answers already given to you, this seems to work and as you
>> requested, in reality, this keeps your code to 1 line...
>>
>> I'm sure this is wrong, and isn't what you want, but hey, Correct
>> working code doesn't seem to matter to you anyway...
>>
>> (I think "Europe/Kiev" is Greece but I don't know)
>>
>> from datetime import datetime, time, timedelta
>> import time
>> import pytz
>>
>> def is_dst(zonename):
>>      tz =3D pytz.timezone(zonename)
>>      now =3D pytz.utc.localize(datetime.utcnow())
>>      return now.astimezone(tz).dst() !=3D timedelta(0)
>>
>> def dst_greece():
>>      if is_dst("Europe/Kiev") :
>>          diff =3D 2
>>      else:
>>          diff =3D 3
>>      return diff
>>
>> lastvisit =3D (datetime.utcnow() +timedelta(hours=3Ddst_greece())).strft=
ime(
>> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )
>>
>>
>> On 12 November 2013 10:15, Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com
>> <mailto:nikos.gr33k@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 8/11/2013 11:11 =CE=BC=CE=BC, =CE=BF/=CE=B7=
 =CE=9D=CE=AF=CE=BA=CE=BF=CF=82 =CE=91=CE=BB=CE=B5=CE=BE=CF=8C=CF=80=CE=BF=
=CF=85=CE=BB=CE=BF=CF=82 =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5:
>>
>>         Is there someway to write the following line even better with th=
e
>>
>>         ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have
>> to
>>         alter the line manually when time changes?
>>
>>         lastvisit =3D ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=3D2) ).strft=
ime(
>>         '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )        # MySQL datetime format
>>
>>         Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>     Example:
>>
>>     #check if date entered as intented, format it properly for MySQL
>>     lastvisit =3D datetime.strptime(lastvisit, '%d %m
>>     %Y').strftime('%Y-%m-%d')
>>
>>     The above code gets the datetime string in a specific way and then
>>     convert it to another format. All happens in one line clear and
>> simple.
>>
>>     Now, in the following statement there shopuld be some way to check
>>     for daylight saving time so i would aboiut add +2 in winter or +3
>>     for greek summer time.
>>
>>
>>     lastvisit =3D ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=3D2) ).strftime(
>>     '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )          # MySQL datetime format
>>
>>     I think + timedelta(hours=3D2) should be substituted with something
>>     else but i don't with what.
>>     --
>>     https://mail.python.org/__mailman/listinfo/python-list
>>     <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>
>>
>>
>
>
> this requires a function to be declared while i just want just an argumen=
t
> inside timedelta( ) that will automatically detect DST or not.
>
> No function declaration but instead something like:
> lastvisit =3D ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta( some_arg_here_that_can det=
ect
> greece's_DST_or_not) ).strftime)     '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )    # MySQL
> datetime format
>
>
>
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

I think that is a great solution.  What would happen if you just did this:
lastvisit2 =3D (datetime.now()).strftime('%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )

Why don't you try it out and see what you find?

(PS, this was pointed out to me by a pro, so I did a little reading in
the python docs and took Andy's excellent code and added a couple of
lines to test.)

I switched to my local timezone "US/Eastern" to test. My machine is
running Ubuntu.  It seems to know that it is in the Eastern US.  If
your server knows where it lives, then this should work for you also.
If it is set to a different timezone, I'm not sure I could help you,
but I'm sure someone could.  You even might ask your host if this is
possible.

----------------------
#! /usr/bin/env python

from datetime import datetime, time, timedelta
import time
import pytz

def is_dst(zonename):
     tz =3D pytz.timezone(zonename)
     now =3D pytz.utc.localize(datetime.utcnow())
     return now.astimezone(tz).dst() !=3D timedelta(0)

def dst_greece():
     #if is_dst("Europe/Kiev") :
     if is_dst("US/Eastern") :
         diff =3D -6
     else:
         diff =3D -5
     return diff

lastvisit =3D (datetime.utcnow()
+timedelta(hours=3Ddst_greece())).strftime('%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )

lastvisit2 =3D (datetime.now()).strftime('%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )

print lastvisit
print lastvisit2

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Joel Goldstick
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