Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.132 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.74; '*S*': 0.01; 'received:134': 0.05; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'subject:into': 0.09; 'thread': 0.14; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'prevent': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; "hasn't": 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'least': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; '>>>>': 0.31; 'subject:Database': 0.31; 'quite': 0.32; 'up.': 0.33; 'everyone': 0.33; 'but': 0.35; 'two': 0.37; 'nov': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; '12,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'simply': 0.61; 'kind': 0.63; 'reached': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'finally': 0.65; 'manner': 0.72; 'walk': 0.74; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'calm': 0.84; 'now...': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap4EAGkAglKGuA9G/2dsb2JhbABZwy6BQYMZAQEFgQkLGAklDwJGEwYCAodrAw+1ZYhejG2CeRaEGwOWKoFlhimGKYU4gyc Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:20:47 +0100 From: Antoon Pardon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.12) Gecko/20130116 Icedove/10.0.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: To whoever hacked into my Database References: <527a5f79$1@news.synserver.de> <1ac21a4c-179e-40aa-a552-85b5e2a74b3d@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1384251648 news.xs4all.nl 15933 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49799 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:59177 Op 12-11-13 10:35, Chris Angelico schreef: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 12/11/2013 05:21, Gregory Ewing wrote: >>> >>> Ned Batchelder wrote: >>>> >>>> I don't know how best to make things better overall. I know that >>>> overlooking Nikos' faults won't do it. >>> >>> >>> If everyone who reached the point where they don't think >>> they can help any more would simply say so in a calm >>> manner and then walk away, that would make things better >>> overall. It wouldn't help *Nikos*, but it would prevent >>> the discussion from degenerating into a flamefest. >>> >>> It takes two to spiral. >>> >> >> In this case three, the OP, the spoon feeders who've tried so hard to help >> on so many occasions, but have consistently seen their help rejected, and >> the responders who finally get fed up. > > And then it all goes meta. This thread hasn't had anything productive > for quite some time now... nor even anything funny. Well if people disagree about what kind of response is appropiate, then I think discussing that, is productive. At least it is more productive than trying to be funny. -- Antoon Pardon