Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.138 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.73; '*S*': 0.01; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'subject:into': 0.09; 'thread': 0.14; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'prevent': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; "hasn't": 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'subject:Database': 0.31; 'quite': 0.32; 'up.': 0.33; 'everyone': 0.33; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'two': 0.37; 'nov': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; '12,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'simply': 0.61; 'reached': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'finally': 0.65; 'manner': 0.72; 'walk': 0.74; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'calm': 0.84; 'now...': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lV8tQYJs3bnPH4VQdzJIb8k6jGkuKXmdd8L21+2IFkQ=; b=pEsewOGj7q8WiRNSyMrAeNJuh9J7yiafdEZzsI36X2Af5B8daybDB9tAuMo2MFyuHx Oc6SYrg0DfJU8BslYsTqJC8mUCq4drvAyQxAmTfjpPmMHfWhuSql8xnAafUNPtD/GyIE rGJvGukAKcam2VTjQzMAJO1sKDnbAC3DBtIvDuGvRDny07fiKHEaEAtXw6f7oGyadgo8 KHVkxaCG7FU2BPYqipyVhKFEHJgqUay7DMYsrXMhQDaY04oPPVOJe/uGmK4SR0TzmCWN icTj8G/0+N7ckh49Rqj8oCmFp8oWGlwz0pqSKtBTm4KZb4013o5lj+3zs9sFVhULPbhZ RZsQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.96.130 with SMTP id ds2mr34314359pbb.99.1384248957571; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 01:35:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <527a5f79$1@news.synserver.de> <1ac21a4c-179e-40aa-a552-85b5e2a74b3d@googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:35:57 +1100 Subject: Re: To whoever hacked into my Database From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1384249365 news.xs4all.nl 15979 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:32984 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:59173 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 12/11/2013 05:21, Gregory Ewing wrote: >> >> Ned Batchelder wrote: >>> >>> I don't know how best to make things better overall. I know that >>> overlooking Nikos' faults won't do it. >> >> >> If everyone who reached the point where they don't think >> they can help any more would simply say so in a calm >> manner and then walk away, that would make things better >> overall. It wouldn't help *Nikos*, but it would prevent >> the discussion from degenerating into a flamefest. >> >> It takes two to spiral. >> > > In this case three, the OP, the spoon feeders who've tried so hard to help > on so many occasions, but have consistently seen their help rejected, and > the responders who finally get fed up. And then it all goes meta. This thread hasn't had anything productive for quite some time now... nor even anything funny. ChrisA