Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:into': 0.09; 'tismer': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'prevent': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; 'programming': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'second': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints- To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'subject:Database': 0.31; 'up.': 0.33; 'everyone': 0.33; 'but': 0.35; 'two': 0.37; 'christian': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'world.': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; 'reached': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'finally': 0.65; 'manner': 0.72; 'walk': 0.74; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'calm': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: To whoever hacked into my Database Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:34:46 +0000 References: <527a5f79$1@news.synserver.de> <1ac21a4c-179e-40aa-a552-85b5e2a74b3d@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-190-246.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1384248836 news.xs4all.nl 16006 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52807 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:59170 On 12/11/2013 05:21, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Ned Batchelder wrote: >> I don't know how best to make things better overall. I know that >> overlooking Nikos' faults won't do it. > > If everyone who reached the point where they don't think > they can help any more would simply say so in a calm > manner and then walk away, that would make things better > overall. It wouldn't help *Nikos*, but it would prevent > the discussion from degenerating into a flamefest. > > It takes two to spiral. > In this case three, the OP, the spoon feeders who've tried so hard to help on so many occasions, but have consistently seen their help rejected, and the responders who finally get fed up. -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence