Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.etla.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'cpython': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'string': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'sys,': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'devs': 0.16; 'downside': 0.16; 'mean,': 0.16; 'opened.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'url:gmane': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; "aren't": 0.24; 'url:moin': 0.24; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'values': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'function': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'url:bugs': 0.29; 'patch': 0.29; 'strongly': 0.30; 'url:wiki': 0.31; 'fine,': 0.31; 'open': 0.33; '(including': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'agree': 0.35; 'anybody': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'much.': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'detail': 0.37; 'expected': 0.38; '8bit%:86': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'weight': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'future': 0.60; 'providing': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'term': 0.63; 'different': 0.65; 'subject:long': 0.84; 'versions)': 0.84; 'url:comments': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3 Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 16:14:10 +0100 References: <87dff083-14d8-4163-89f3-d78a9be6c802@c15g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> <3qadncD4-6fcPsbMnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@westnet.com.au> <515bbedb$0$29891$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <515be00e$0$29891$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <515c45ad$0$29966$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-18-43-197.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130407-0, 07/04/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 32 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1365347567 news.xs4all.nl 6973 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33713 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:43001 On 06/04/2013 22:24, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: >> 04.04.13 00:57, Chris Angelico написав(ла): >>> http://bugs.python.org/issue17629 opened. >> >> >> See also the discussion at >> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.ideas/15640 . I agree with >> rejection. This is an implementation detail and different Python >> implementations (including future CPython versions) can have different >> internal string implementations. > > I really don't see why this means that there can't be a function in > sys, or something. I mean, other Pythons aren't expected to return the > exact same values from sys.getsizeof, are they? But clearly the weight > of opinion is against me, so fine, I don't care that much. > > ChrisA > There is nothing to stop anybody providing a patch to give this functionality. The downside is long term someone has to maintain it. I strongly prefer having python devs spending their time looking after the 3905 open issues of which 1729 have patches, see http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/138310 -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence