Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.037 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'python': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'wastes': 0.09; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'mon,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'code,': 0.18; 'feb': 0.19; 'code.': 0.20; 'parse': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'am,': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'received:209.85.212': 0.28; 'words': 0.29; '"the': 0.29; 'code': 0.31; 'gets': 0.32; 'anybody': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'except': 0.36; 'visual': 0.36; 'being': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'far': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mark': 0.38; 'nothing': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'days': 0.60; 'most': 0.61; 'hang': 0.65; '2013': 0.84; 'visually': 0.84; 'widespread': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7Kn54GdM4NWmGJQyEwTbzLhN0X3RZGFguuR94ZfREgs=; b=GbqklIUTbh+sDGMzK3mRIW2ZTB5gVSVKv5ORDo6DxcdyVpqaZjcbLOC4fXWwWcira+ +jw7GBqU8RdVOz52oS3a1g17FHRufYpt2nxBXcGAiVYtXYfoSLTIklCouCRFbeYje3dX w806L2xUMAv2VVLB2Eu69l6lMpjdByE3toi1KyXaVddY+WLb0ToAer13UO6a6EyKlam9 xMuPrGJiXI7nZEDjqX92Tp+l6U/+HothRdWWtKogbALgZlVOYPgZ2YTMt9g7IdSWWrd7 rdLEUfhVsGfuEXIIcE3zPBDmOb5HIISdjYs/m1REZxDm2R8duK3iisUvRK5Ver2+Z6O3 0ICw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.37.109 with SMTP id x13mr7995801vdj.10.1361738869110; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:47:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5127848B.1060004@gmail.com> <928d2cf7-728b-4f35-b8c9-4c9b958507e5@googlegroups.com> <61471a01-ee6e-4bc6-bd08-8696a31ec1eb@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:47:48 +1100 Subject: Re: Python Newbie From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 12 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1361738870 news.xs4all.nl 6925 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56828 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:39790 On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > Your words "the use of () has been widespread and mandated by the compilers" > and "have long used () where they are required". As they are neither > mandated nor required in Python it just wastes the time of anybody reading > code as they have to parse something that offers nothing except visual > noise. As for being "visually pleasing" that's simply laughable. I want to > be able to read code, not hang it in an art gallery. Most of what gets hung in art galleries these days is far less visually pleasing than well-written code. ChrisA