Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'mentioned,': 0.04; 'patterns': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'agree,': 0.07; 'development)': 0.09; 'emerge': 0.09; 'naturally': 0.09; 'subject:book': 0.09; 'am,': 0.12; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.15; 'this:': 0.15; '(test': 0.16; 'emergent': 0.16; 'url:developerworks': 0.16; 'url:ibm': 0.16; 'url:java': 0.16; 'received:74.125.82.44': 0.17; 'received:mail-ww0-f44.google.com': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'java': 0.20; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.23; 'cc:2**0': 0.25; 'code': 0.25; 'work.': 0.27; '(and': 0.28; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.29; 'url:library': 0.30; 'subject:?': 0.31; 'nov': 0.31; 'pretty': 0.32; 'there': 0.33; 'driven': 0.34; 'skip:" 20': 0.35; 'fri,': 0.36; 'received:74.125.82': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'received:74.125': 0.39; 'basic': 0.39; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'url:index': 0.61; 'john': 0.62; '2011': 0.62; 'covers': 0.64; 'series': 0.65; 'articles': 0.68; 'subject:Design': 0.73; 'subject:Your': 0.78; 'design)': 0.84; 'subject:view': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=qolwEJWt6uQ9ZpPN6nx7HLEKzNYUBqatwhaokOwxSrU=; b=uT/DneYwYio8h8ATLOfhNCtAr68xv+angL+fJw2qhnoMsPuottg6ss6ey5+EgMzjPF kGyIzcDBykEegpmha3f0oc9wK68DTWTqAh8q9lWmPR2tmUau0oPWZ3SZ63tJ5zy3f20b +UuLGyevLSyCtwlX9zmYBDtzQlPWVPrW6yc1E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0531d3c1-61c6-41f6-a74a-fe3d24a731fb@x2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com> References: <6097694.446.1320366784098.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prap37> <0531d3c1-61c6-41f6-a74a-fe3d24a731fb@x2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 08:41:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Design Pattern and Python: Any book recommendation? Your view? From: Joe Riopel To: John Roth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 11 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1320410462 news.xs4all.nl 6933 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58057 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:15341 On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 8:28 AM, John Roth wrote: > The first is that if you use TDD (Test Driven Development) and > refactor relentlessly to remove duplication, most of the basic design > patterns will emerge naturally from the code as you work. I agree, and there is a pretty good series of articles on developerWorks that covers this: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-eaed2/index.html The author used Java in this series, but as Ulrich mentioned, I feel that design patterns (and emergent design) are "language-agnostic.".