Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; '22,': 0.09; 'git': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; "wouldn't": 0.11; 'eclipse': 0.16; 'message-id:@dough.gmane.org': 0.16; 'pythonistas': 0.16; 'query.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'refactoring': 0.16; 'subject:ever': 0.16; 'subject:program': 0.16; 'url:pydev': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'earlier': 0.21; 'tried': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'question': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'environment': 0.29; 'finds': 0.29; 'use?': 0.29; 'source': 0.29; 'system,': 0.32; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.32; 'curious': 0.33; 'impression': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'times.': 0.33; 'similar': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'totally': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'editor': 0.37; 'why': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mark': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'subject:, ': 0.61; 'jul': 0.65; 'ago.': 0.66; 'horse': 0.84; 'increasingly': 0.84; 'refusing': 0.84; 'received:89': 0.86; 'derby': 0.91; 'rusi': 0.91; 'angel': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: My first ever Python program, comments welcome Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 09:14:34 +0100 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-89-243-205-89.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120721-1, 21/07/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1342944844 news.xs4all.nl 6971 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59344 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:25799 On 22/07/2012 03:55, rusi wrote: > On Jul 22, 1:10 am, Dave Angel wrote: > >> A totally off-the-wall query. Are you using a source control system, >> such as git ? It can make you much braver about refactoring a working >> program. > > Question in a similar vein: What development environment do you use? > My impression is that the majority of pythonistas use a non-ide editor > like vi or emacs > Ive been using emacs for 20 years and python-mode of emacs is very > useful but I am increasingly concerned that emacs is refusing to move > with the times. > > Which is why I am particularly curious how an ol Java-head finds > eclipse+python (http://pydev.org/ ) > Wouldn't describe myself as "an ol Java-head" but I disliked eclipse 10 years ago. I tried it again earlier this year and still disliked it. It's like entering a legless cart horse for the Derby or the Grand National. YMMV. -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.