Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeder2.ecngs.de!ecngs!feeder.ecngs.de!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.063 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.87; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'mrab': 0.05; 'semantics': 0.09; 'sat,': 0.15; 'sorted()': 0.16; 'sorts': 0.16; 'subject:ever': 0.16; 'subject:program': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'input': 0.18; 'variable': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; '+0100,': 0.29; '>>>>': 0.29; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'yes.': 0.29; 'function': 0.30; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; 'another': 0.33; 'program,': 0.34; 'list': 0.35; 'same.': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'list.': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'object': 0.38; 'skip:l 20': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'list,': 0.39; 'short': 0.39; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'subject:, ': 0.61; 'jul': 0.65; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.68; 'received:74.208': 0.71; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; 'difference.': 0.84; 'different.': 0.84; 'received:74.208.4.194': 0.84; 'subtly': 0.84; 'kat': 0.91 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 22:01:42 -0400 From: Dave Angel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: My first ever Python program, comments welcome References: <500b4a27$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <500B5DC4.7020204@mrabarnett.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <500B5DC4.7020204@mrabarnett.plus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:wjYVwEEfdZoQMqMV3Qbm+6soH7iwjp9ar6kh5vIDrXC NU0Vau77jWHZPw1HY4ARVuUIOknzM0WKlXUTjE1xdUci9nzKO+ ol3Hg8mb6QUA23NivYIQiI7KrU6j8TrWGsEI+tNG1ZT0uMACRo WzigiG5wvRTKcycuVTxIh1lEk8JyhUg8J9iSzOYsCi04SJhNwH to7Th79SwJZACA8m61kTGwx9nvyVgALLlBuilMlOXjJ4RPvTXn zvtHbfBzEV28uDbLx/v8g3tI73iiOP+H87jQfV2RBVflHUUGM1 CmyeWPt3A8NID0oEr+/l/89NyWHufrljtDP2j72986qJTxPcQ= = X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: d@davea.name List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1342922527 news.xs4all.nl 6942 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50070 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:25792 On 07/21/2012 09:56 PM, MRAB wrote: > On 22/07/2012 01:32, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:40:46 +0100, MRAB wrote: >> >>> On 21/07/2012 20:08, Lipska the Kat wrote: >>>> l=sorted(l, key=itemgetter(0)) >>> >>> Short is: >>> >>> l.sort(key=itemgetter(0)) >> >> Shorter, and the semantics are subtly different. >> >> The sorted function returns a copy of the input list. >> >> The list.sort method sorts the list in place. >> > Since the result is bound to the original name, the > result is the same. > In this particular program, yes. But if there's another variable bound to the same list, then the fact that there's a new object from sorted() makes a difference. -- DaveA