Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.032 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; "subject:' ": 0.07; 'pep': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'changes': 0.15; 'posted': 0.15; '"python': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'ought': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'library': 0.18; 'thoughts': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; '"you': 0.24; 'initial': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'first,': 0.26; 'least': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'function': 0.29; 'wondering': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'list:': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; 'monday,': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'proposals': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'feedback': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'same.': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; '12,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'discuss': 0.62; 'love': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'machine!': 0.84; 'aka': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L0eBkCCehHMgydJWusAIOUvtbSjwIog2zyzvQnWEzAk=; b=sL8CKzPXAd2QAnrgUe35kjO+LEfM3NnHFTAwPYXjOzP9HaDPGPDTPWan19bSFiApUa PqjyZM8j5zwf+A0XPHZP5zxi5EX9GJAji4RjjsLRUvqIYX77lwATpcguuYDF7eYs6KPP JAxZYoEO7f5VfUrDnKXwdtX1+hEdmCCZ07R+EiA982FUEMLwIpIXb7dvIin0w7J56RQb 4huJkaAY/+ArQ9Ohwzi+OAqWEvDVS9pArQ5yg+WZHXj4fnd9zWWwCaWbpu8kB6a+LGl1 1hNxOBcJQ50XqjxYe/0+2PAFWRk9zzVFp25oXUjoY8OLPoOiJw9QsMXNFaHsMntVFwnj qFlQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.69.20.10 with SMTP id gy10mr506654pbd.180.1384220131238; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 17:35:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5281738d$0$6574$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <8e3da943-3ed5-49f1-a4f2-4836d0f435dd@googlegroups.com> <5281738d$0$6574$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 12:35:31 +1100 Subject: Re: 'isimmutable' and 'ImmutableNester' From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1384220135 news.xs4all.nl 15978 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60846 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:59129 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 12:55:56 -0800, Ned Batchelder wrote: > >> On Monday, November 11, 2013 3:47:45 PM UTC-5, Frank-Rene Sch=E4fer wrot= e: >>> I prepared a PEP and was wondering what your thoughts are about it: >> >> The best place to discuss proposals for changes to the Python language >> and library is the Python-Ideas mailing list: >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas > > Actually it is recommended to get at least initial feedback here first, > to weed out proposals like: > > "Python ought to allow function currying, like in Haskell." > > "You mean like functools.partial?" > > "Oh, never mind then." aka "Guido's Time Machine" situations. I think this might be one of them - I read the proposal and thought "Hashability should answer that", and random832 also posted the same. Love that time machine! ChrisA