Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder7.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.020 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'binary': 0.07; 'subject:design': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'finney': 0.16; 'subject:Language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'normally': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'replace': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'argue': 0.31; 'sep': 0.31; 'text': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'common': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'data,': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'ben': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'more': 0.64; '2013,': 0.91 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:42:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Wayne Werner X-X-Sender: wayne@gilgamesh To: Ben Finney Subject: Re: Language design In-Reply-To: <7wbo412m02.fsf@benfinney.id.au> References: <522eb795$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7wbo412m02.fsf@benfinney.id.au> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323329-1663568959-1378899732=:2301" Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1378899806 news.xs4all.nl 15948 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40328 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:53952 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323329-1663568959-1378899732=:2301 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Tue, 10 Sep 2013, Ben Finney wrote: > The sooner we replace the erroneous > “text is ASCII” in the common wisdom with “text is Unicode”, the > better. I'd actually argue that it's better to replace the common wisdom with "text is binary data, and we should normally look at that text through Unicode eyes". A little less catchy, but more accurate ;) -W --8323329-1663568959-1378899732=:2301--