Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.066 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.87; '*S*': 0.00; '22,': 0.09; 'get.': 0.09; 'it;': 0.09; 'subject:messages': 0.09; 'whichever': 0.09; 'charging': 0.16; 'fine.': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'else,': 0.17; 'featured': 0.18; 'received:209.85.214.174': 0.21; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'am,': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.28; 'chris': 0.28; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'subject:all': 0.29; 'probably': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'stuff': 0.30; 'expect': 0.31; 'space,': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; "can't": 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'list': 0.35; 'said,': 0.35; 'sometimes': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'anything': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:209.85.214': 0.39; 'google': 0.39; 'little': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'companies': 0.60; 'most': 0.61; 'you.': 0.61; 'information': 0.63; 'show': 0.63; 'selling': 0.64; 'privacy': 0.65; 'jul': 0.65; 'money': 0.74; 'url:privacy': 0.75; 'ads.': 0.84; 'spy': 0.84; 'useful!': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+k8WYdAXy2PydZ5ElxTZteMHEhhmmGGCGtg809kG1Lg=; b=ajQJWYcNczbzqiez3EMITBhHsP0fRraxoAs0pcxqSqLMqkM1CC9OfkN/eU1iXsca8F 0WgTVR94pwgh6azPXr/PYTIwDc2Rv2tAr/UZHUfubfF4yb+2T2ONDvg5+n2FDiUEHGHj BrEBMpd5cFAaGZBWioAZS2YuT2Aaw4vjvz3fgAZQnk3pr0xOxZWoEi+AixSCilljOWV8 XkN278BUqqZeb4Z1HVdwoC29hpkQBwkWyfb+TdoNmSckJqz5fh4wAZ1DkUPMaJN+dCGm xpIB5RBYtfqdgsUD2BmZvNf7RWGs3hvL/lg+J2aMv8KxeA36RbK0Anmftcg6qAe3jqtU fldQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <500b474c$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <500b474c$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 10:38:19 +1000 Subject: Re: Sudden doubling of nearly all messages From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1342917502 news.xs4all.nl 6845 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53757 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:25784 On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 04:25:21 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> Use whichever service you like, but don't seriously expect anything that >> you don't pay money for to be perfectly featured AND not spy on you. > > http://duckduckgo.com/privacy.html They go for privacy at the cost of everything else, and that's fine. But you still can't depend on its featureset. With a mailing list / newsgroup reader, there's a whole lot of little things that you'd probably like, but you can't depend on it; such things cost money, and most companies that give you stuff that cost money without charging you money are going to be selling ad space, ergo the temptation to harvest information about you. But as I said, I don't care. Google doesn't get any information about me that I'm not willing for them to get. Let 'em show me ads. And sometimes they're even useful! ChrisA