Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'messages.': 0.04; '*not*': 0.07; 'list?': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'subject:messages': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'sat,': 0.15; 'caring': 0.16; 'gmane': 0.16; 'headers,': 0.16; 'newsgroup.': 0.16; 'posted,': 0.16; 'previously,': 0.16; 'sessions,': 0.16; 'to:addr:pearwood.info': 0.16; 'to:addr:steve+comp.lang.python': 0.16; "to:name:steven d'aprano": 0.16; 'trap': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'recipients.': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'nearly': 0.23; "i've": 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'regular': 0.27; 'there.': 0.28; 'noticed': 0.28; 'archives': 0.29; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'mirror': 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'subject:all': 0.29; '(including': 0.30; 'anybody': 0.32; 'not.': 0.32; 'problem': 0.33; 'list': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'posting': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'email addr:python.org': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'several': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'list,': 0.39; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'email name:python-list': 0.62; 'jul': 0.65; 'email,': 0.66; 'news': 0.68; 'header:Reply- To:1': 0.68; 'received:74.208': 0.71; 'sounds': 0.71; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; 'newbie,': 0.84; 'presumably': 0.84; 'provider,': 0.91; 'angel': 0.93 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:33:56 -0400 From: Dave Angel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven D'Aprano Subject: Re: Sudden doubling of nearly all messages References: <500b45a0$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <500b45a0$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:aKfdn3dwepeTNeNyZPBBtYUf/5SRD2ywGh3O6GNKHq7 5kqWdiWFLFN3odLYUlhxreWRCP0j7bF+eVX+PdvPBY3BEXwcmB P71rVxPAX20YFHeXLlKMwD8eLwwSzLE8224qFDVHIfmrj5E7aD 8UO5wxgo1Vy785qRIbmQOjQf2vgaOdnleyuzpA8sIGj15qLavK E4/dpfHWCI90qZGThdtwbs4G5xhs4vDXCP6rTDjzUzU0rS0tc2 qwO8DfEsDWa2VuM0a/jBFOdo8R6gEqmI1/CHflZhnBj3/nRhRO GYBi6JtavmjmMYzAd2aXrAgfTSOwOn1wzePFBDjah082cXIlw= = Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: d@davea.name List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1342917264 news.xs4all.nl 6853 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48939 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:25783 On 07/21/2012 08:13 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 06:48:29 -0400, Dave Angel wrote: > >> Has anybody else noticed the sudden double-posting of nearly all >> messages in the python mailing list? > No I have not. > > It sounds like a problem with your Usenet provider. Remember that this > news group is a mirror of the mailing list python-list@python.org so you > can check the mail archives to see if the problem is there. It is also > mirrored by gmane (I *think* it is gmane.comp.python.general). > I don't have a usenet provider, I use the straight email, collected as regular email, by Thunderbird. I thought for a while that perhaps my imap provider had hiccupped, and just reloaded all the same messages. But it happened in several sessions, and for the messages I checked, the emails were *NOT* identical. >> Previously, I've seen some messages double posted, and it was nearly >> always a newbie, presumably posting via some low-end gateway. > Some people also annoyingly send to both the newsgroup *and* the mailing > list, not realising -- or not caring -- that they are the same thing. > > > That may be because many other messages (including this one from you) list the newsgroup in the headers, so a reply-all generates it as one of the recipients. The only reason I don't fall into that trap is that I have Thunderbird configured to *not* send to any newsgroup. -- DaveA