Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.110 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.78; '*S*': 0.00; '22,': 0.09; 'subject:messages': 0.09; "wouldn't": 0.11; 'cases': 0.15; 'advocating': 0.16; 'either;': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'headers,': 0.16; 'targeting': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'received:209.85.214.174': 0.21; 'assuming': 0.22; "i'd": 0.22; 'feature': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'am,': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.28; 'actual': 0.28; 'subject:all': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'support,': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'guys': 0.33; 'likely': 0.33; 'another': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'server': 0.35; 'list': 0.35; 'too.': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'too': 0.36; 'being': 0.37; 'python.org': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:209.85.214': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'address': 0.60; 'companies': 0.60; 'company': 0.60; 'most': 0.61; 'you.': 0.61; 'service.': 0.61; 'necessarily': 0.63; 'different': 0.63; 'information': 0.63; 'jul': 0.65; 'believe': 0.69; 'ads.': 0.84; "it'd": 0.84; 'webmail': 0.95; 'ads': 0.97 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=yfVl5qbvn1cspx1b05HLtoqPVREb0WGlKPB4SiSEGXs=; b=VbuZWVbsFxDxltkKFjl6SMcwbbKuBM658h0J+feVS1ghWiS3FSAuEeg4DeNU3ncJw0 mcVclt1Lu5T9+XTt29BwCJDdQeNIuJg6b+uFHt3jf7v6OwA9jKesrWwfNHKruxCq+Rdq 0WvHh5xab3p6IN4vTOiIWiXqbVhXkn+ArRdMMT1G+SVYQp0wjt1g1JO7cCkh3fIBYVjS xQAfpVMwMi8jsvMo4LWvlDGRjFyPa/Iol8+vWSlplz/owCluMAGWIuigSjm9j1gCKg2v 7o9SrEKTwgHldPnjkas6HUJ8bSAiHa3bikSzYniScmScNwTN7pGTM6iUs8G98dljTeSc x84A== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 09:16:24 +1000 Subject: Re: Sudden doubling of nearly all messages From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1342912586 news.xs4all.nl 6959 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57981 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:25777 On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > People hold grudges against MS too strongly, and they believe too much > in Google's righteousness. They are both big companies that don't > necessarily care about you. Just to clarify, I'm not advocating the "Google is perfect" stance either; in both cases you're looking at a huge company and a zero-dollar service. That means you're completely at their mercy in terms of feature support, and you're most likely going to have your information harvested as a means of spamming you with ads. And as you can see from the headers, I use gmail too. I'm fully aware that they're scanning my emails to target the ads I see; it doesn't bother me. I have another email address at a domain that I own, with the mail server being an actual computer that I own, and Google's welcome to read through all my mailing list posts. It'd be no different if python.org provided their own free-to-use webmail service. I'd be assuming you guys are targeting me with ads, and it wouldn't bother me. :) ChrisA