Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.060 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.88; '*S*': 0.00; 'talks': 0.03; 'say,': 0.05; 'parsing': 0.07; 'counting': 0.09; 'subject:language': 0.09; ';-)': 0.11; 'thread': 0.11; 'subject:python': 0.11; 'etiquette.': 0.16; 'situation.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'oversee': 0.17; 'trying': 0.21; 'not,': 0.21; 'sorry,': 0.22; "i've": 0.23; 'least': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; '[1]': 0.27; 'continuing': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'subject:list': 0.28; 'trouble': 0.28; 'behavior.': 0.29; 'probably': 0.29; 'this.': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'received:209.85.210.174': 0.30; 'gets': 0.32; 'generally': 0.32; 'could': 0.32; 'comments': 0.33; 'goes': 0.33; 'true.': 0.33; 'zero': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'agree': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'sometimes': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'east': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'anything': 0.36; 'october': 0.37; 'does': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'step': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'help': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'back': 0.62; 'peace': 0.62; 'personal': 0.62; 'here': 0.65; 'taking': 0.65; 'engage': 0.65; 'middle': 0.66; 'talking': 0.66; 'believe': 0.69; 'hour,': 0.84; 'perceive': 0.84; 'positively': 0.84; 'standing': 0.84; 'ten,': 0.84; 'rusi': 0.91; 'sitting': 0.93 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=S9clvj/kLhXv7vm4YsCRsQMPpsuA4O7faX5rF6iZG2w=; b=MwM83mF44T8bpnNDGaQ9BdH9rbe5ECuGOtlKI8rRVR6qdcVaUmKU98Bh1gaRPpQb2I VFNvFn8DnwiNIYtEAViUbQWIHYTtpWIONwycAp97IeRorRy00QTDQpmyOFZ7J1mRgL8Y q+i9rKqUbbbTKZJf52OOMXdC95HUvjnDtYh3oNB+FgfGOK+mOdZjke5jluqnFuu1572M Yg9jT7i/EvZA4G4E1s9+R57+9yDN2L6sdb88ZwinF2fQKS+oLhE2jw+1j5klhz9dcqaJ rVeevM2A8Xtd2Ruz4CoQzIfj0NwckUj9J6LlfZM+qUJrbMgx/63ygapt2Nnwvx6kwf6C DWvA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: z@etiol.net X-Originating-IP: [190.104.26.20] In-Reply-To: References: <77361fb4-a59a-45b0-85e2-95472aec3716@n7g2000pbj.googlegroups.com> <8b0ebc42-52f2-442d-aa92-12eff32b9d0e@v9g2000pbi.googlegroups.com> From: Zero Piraeus Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 01:17:07 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CUsGKKmoFJazqic7Q1Cs6IsGp9w Subject: Re: Aggressive language on python-list To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkeFGxqB/WQDSXUHOUO/8IloW8poyY941+KCDutVxQAOtBX4OVBwcrgyzOARNULO1jUfzCE X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1350537450 news.xs4all.nl 6885 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50691 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:31589 : On 18 October 2012 00:36, rusi wrote: > Unfortunately, I feel this whole discussion/thread has got derailed: > Zero you started this thread about aggressive behavior. It does not > seem to me that this was the case you were talking of, was it? Sorry, but I'm having trouble parsing that sentence. Could you rephrase it? ... I've just been sitting here horrified for the last half hour, trying to work out if there's anything productive I can say, either onlist or privately, to help defuse this situation. And ... well, probably not, but here goes anyway: David: I believe that you are trying to engage positively with this forum. I also believe that you have a tendency to misinterpret some comments as personal attacks[1], and to respond by "giving [at least] as good as you get". I don't think that's working out in the way you intend, and I think you'd improve your own standing here by taking a step back when you perceive an attack, counting to ten, taking a deep breath, and any other applicable clich=C3=A9 that generally gets trotted out in situations like this. Sometimes they're clich=C3=A9s because they're true. Alex23: I agree that publishing private correspondence is a breach of etiquette. I also think that continuing to engage with David over this isn't going to help anyone, at least while you're both so pissed off. Got to dash - I think they need me to oversee some Middle East peace talks = ;-) -[]z. [1] A trait I share, and struggle to overcome.