Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.027 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'argument': 0.04; 'governments': 0.09; 'prohibits': 0.09; 'received:mail- vc0-f174.google.com': 0.09; 'subject:language': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.11; 'exercise': 0.13; '"congress': 0.16; 'amendment': 0.16; 'bullet': 0.16; 'jumping': 0.16; 'oct': 0.16; 'prohibiting': 0.16; 'respecting': 0.16; 'restricting': 0.16; 'supreme': 0.16; 'swallow': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'thu,': 0.17; 'typing': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'people,': 0.21; 'seems': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'common': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'subject:list': 0.28; 'chris': 0.28; 'received:209.85.220.174': 0.29; 'religion,': 0.29; 'subsequently': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'certain': 0.33; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'whatever': 0.35; 'court': 0.35; 'community': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.36; 'anything': 0.36; 'does': 0.37; 'drop': 0.37; 'rather': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'first': 0.61; 'free': 0.61; 'bring': 0.62; 'frustrated': 0.65; 'god': 0.66; 'federal': 0.67; 'opinions': 0.72; 'forth': 0.75; 'constitution': 0.84; 'idiot': 0.84; 'law*': 0.84; 'received:136': 0.84; 'redress': 0.84; 'speech,': 0.84; 'waste.': 0.84; 'preventing': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CnXgxB8JmjqP4KzYXtAIRh5qCttJGX8zniVSi1CcxIc=; b=AtzX2vgA/GJUCPvTlm7kRdDsiDOkv0MT5+IgvbLzLJub6aSjdxHmp4BZhHuPNGf7VK 50IEn2bSIhRhgi0I2qwUQZd3FvUp//NhuA1/ZTDOYo0ykKdAdfeI1k+jwLLrqP7qYjhv DdZg+6xvkj19tweiYWtPBoaUTcztwZKyQ44Eb53rdJIkHg8bJ8mOI9DNkTRMXh8aSHP3 szr51pVW6JnqAZYAB8Xfvq5J+k0T4BtDOZUGKjxDw5Xsydcfxl/iV9PGTzdxToi+2o9l uQ89odLLwN5Ndkjb5ACweatQBHJpe+y8rBQ7KwuaPx0WAZ13O6lMkIstkiw27ncCDnOs Ilyg== Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 01:11:13 -0400 From: Hguant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Aggressive language on python-list References: <77361fb4-a59a-45b0-85e2-95472aec3716@n7g2000pbj.googlegroups.com> <8b0ebc42-52f2-442d-aa92-12eff32b9d0e@v9g2000pbi.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1350537082 news.xs4all.nl 6911 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46585 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:31588 On 10/18/2012 12:42 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Dwight Hutto wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> Common misconception. The First Amendment to the United States >>> Constitution prohibits the *making of any law* that restricts certain >>> freedoms. It does not have ANYTHING to do with "I have first amendment >>> rights to say whatever I like". >> Your constitutional opinion, but not everyone's. >> >> And I quote: >> >> "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, >> or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or -->abridging the freedom >> of speech, or of the press<--; or the right of the people peaceably to >> assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." > That's one entire sentence. "Congress shall make no law... abridging > the freedom..." - it's ONLY preventing Congress's actions. The > Constitution was subsequently applied by the Supreme Court to state > governments as well, but it's still only restricting state and federal > law-makers. > > ChrisA My god people, can we just drop this and move on already? No one's opinions are going to be changed, and there's no magic bullet argument that will shut down someone you disagree with. Swallow your bile and carry on. Sorry to be jumping in like this, I'm just frustrated that THIS is what's the community is going to spend its time on. Seems rather much a waste. --Jonathan (Also, someone was an idiot on the internet. OH NO! MUST BRING FORTH MY EPIC TYPING FINGERS. Isn't there an xckd about this?)