Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'fixes': 0.05; 'python': 0.09; 'handling,': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'whole.': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'bug': 0.10; 'ignore': 0.13; '24,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'fixed.': 0.17; 'unicode': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'memory': 0.18; 'feb': 0.19; '3.2': 0.22; 'sorry,': 0.22; 'url:bugs': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'chris': 0.28; '>>>>': 0.29; 'cases.': 0.29; 'improves': 0.29; 'summary': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'url:python': 0.32; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.32; "aren't": 0.33; 'him.': 0.33; 'handle': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'done': 0.34; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'characters': 0.36; 'too': 0.36; 'being': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mark': 0.38; 'there,': 0.38; 'performance': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'free': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'our': 0.65; 'importantly,': 0.65; 'overall': 0.66; '2013': 0.84; 'down!': 0.84; 'dramatically': 0.84; 'furman': 0.84; 'peter,': 0.84; 'ethan': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Python Newbie Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 00:02:12 +0000 References: <5127848B.1060004@gmail.com> <928d2cf7-728b-4f35-b8c9-4c9b958507e5@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-18-29-221.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130223-1, 23/02/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1361664091 news.xs4all.nl 6968 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34816 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:39723 On 23/02/2013 21:48, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 7:53 AM, jmfauth wrote: >> On 23 fév, 20:08, Ethan Furman wrote: >>> On 02/23/2013 10:44 AM, jmfauth wrote: >>> >>> [snip various stupidities] >>> >>>> jmf >>> >>> Peter, jmfauth is one of our resident trolls. Feel free to ignore him. >>> >>> -- >>> ~Ethan~ >> >> Sorry, what can say? >> More memory and slow down! >> If you see a progress, I'm seeing a regression. > > Potted summary for those who aren't familiar with jmf's trolling: > Python 3.2 had a major bug in its Unicode handling, meaning that > non-BMP characters were mis-handled. Python 3.3 fixes these AND > improves performance on the whole. The complaints are about *very* > specific use-cases, and the overall string-handling benchmarks have > dramatically improved; but more importantly, the bug is fixed. > > There, now you too can killfile him without loss. > > ChrisA > See also http://bugs.python.org/issue16061 for work being done to handle edge cases. -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence